Why wasn't Dr. Wala commended or rewarded for obtaining the confession that eventually led to Richard Allen’s conviction? The words she got from him were used against him at trial, and now he’s serving a 130-year sentence. Sheriff Liggett and Kathy Shank aren’t the heroes here—so, is Dr. Wala? We all have strong feelings about her, and it’s worth noting that she lost her job and moved out of state, likely for her own safety. The "Indiana good ol' boys" system seems to do as it pleases. Even Dr. Wala, aware she’d made mistakes, had already become deeply invested in the Delphi case, and later looked into information on Kegan Kline. Dr. Wala wasn’t a hero, nor was she ever charged with anything. She was simply used as a tool, as she fed information and Haloperidol to extract further details later on. That’s the kind of manipulation evil people engage in.
As for Robert Fortson, a married father with young children, there’s no evidence of a suicide note, as far as I know. Did he really commit suicide? We're talking about people from Carroll County. In my opinion, Westerman and Fortson were being pressured into their roles by an unnamed YouTuber, who may be indirectly responsible for Fortson’s death. Hard to believe that Fortson, a military man who served our country, was reportedly terrified of Holeman, and might have been set up or even killed by him. They were furious about the leaked photos—extremely furious. An interview with Fortson’s wife could shed more light on this. Did she believe he was suicidal or show signs of it beforehand?
Finally, what happened to Libby’s puppy? In court documents, Becky Patty mentioned how Libby got her new puppy recently. She then said she went to the trails with Abby. Not with the puppy. Ok, I can understand why a puppy might not be safe on a walk, but my concern is that we never saw the puppy after that. Not once—no video, no picture, nothing. Libby was known to take thousands of pictures. So, what happened to the puppy? Did Mike Patty kill it? Did it end up at the pound? What happened to Libby’s puppy?
Merry New Years to all the true crime community, friends, haters, lurkers, trolls, whoever it is. Pray for the haters every night, as a mental reset. I always tell people, do you know who never gave a fuck about haters or opps? Albert Einstein. He just kept pushing. Once we get over ourselves we must realize that this is the playing field we've been given. We must utilize all the time we got, positively and towards yourself. At times you have to be selfish. My name is Alex and I am a human being, funny af, a capricorn and I am Tall, & in the Dark I am Handsome, Ive been told. Make 2025 Count Folks. We all have a lot of people we still have to prove wrong, so stay pro-active in your life. The only way to live forever is to leave your marks here on this earth. My new years resolution is be be so rich in 2025, that people will call me a Vagillionaire. It's really a number.
Reminder: I will never ask for a penny ever. I do this for the love of it, so help me by sharing. Merry New Years and Salute to 2025.
Officer Dan Dulin has been known to violate people's constitutional rights more than once, including in the case of Jesse Snider, where he illegally violated a veterans 4th amendment rights, the guy loses his job and in 2014 he "allegedly" killed himself. Now, Dan Dulin wants us to believe that although he records every interaction with the public, the day he interviewed Richard Allen, in a case that's probably the most well-known in Indiana history, he "forgot" to hit the record button? And if Rick gave you the tip in person on February 18, 2017, why wouldn't that be on your mind just four days later, when he was on stage at the first press conference for the same case on February 22, 2017? Was Dan Dulin a Rookie in 2017? Far from it.
Is Dan Dulin covering up for Richard Allen? Or is Dan Dulin that dumb? Why did he not have any notes from their interaction? Why wasn't it properly entered into the ORION system? Why did it take over five years and an elderly 75-year-old volunteer to find your information on Richard Allen? Kathy Shank made Dan Dulin look incompetent.
There are certain protocols that should have been followed but weren’t. Dan Dulin needs to man up and do an interview to answer many questions that the public wants to know. Dan Dulin, are you mentally slow? Why hadn’t you brought up that tip in over five years while the case was still unsolved? Were you properly trained on entering information into the ORION system? Most important question, why do you still have a job Dan Dulin?
Dan Dulin, how does your wife and family sleep at night, knowing her husband and their father is a liar and a fraud and an incompetent law enforcement officer? They surely can't be proud of you Dan.
WE WANT ANSWERS DAN DULIN!
And we all deserve the truth!
Earlier today, a good friend of mine in a Delphi chat, from Indiana came up with the name "Bridgefoot," and I think it's genius. "Bridge Guy" was so masculine, but "Bridgefoot" is gender-neutral. From what I've heard, Bridgefoot is cousins with the elusive Bigfoot. We didn't ask permission, but from now on, instead of "Bridge Guy," it’s "Bridgefoot." That’s why the new movies and novels will be called The Tales of Bridgefoot—home of the good ol' boys.
If you enjoy the name, check out the pics in the link below.
https://justiceforjonbenetramsey.blogspot.com/2024/12/the-tales-of-bridgefoot.html
Recently, there was an interview with the Hidden True Crime page on YouTube. Just so people know how much I get under their skin all the way from California, this was when Holeman commented about YouTubers putting a Shrek on his head. Lol. That was me. If you haven't enjoyed the video of Holeman, check it out. By the way, you're welcome, Lt. Holeman of the ISP.
I constantly reminded Holeman and Carter via email how much of cowards they were. Holeman personally told me that Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and Elvis Fields had been double and triple-checked and cleared—this was during the gag order. Carter is the devil of darkness, and Holeman is incompetent as an investigator. I always remind Doug and Jerry that I can't wait for Abby and Libby to return and snatch both of their souls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQC0nTpZOcA
Interview with Jerry Holeman ^^^^
This is directly from the comet dated October 24, 2024
Volunteer finds lost tip sheet that leads police to Richard Allen
https://www.carrollcountycomet.com/articles/attention-to-detail/
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Mullin then turned the questioning to Allen’s self-reported tip, placing him on the trail on February 13, 2017. The tip, “Tip #74,” was placed in a file box in a desk drawer. On September 21, 2022, Kathy Shank, an investigation volunteer, found the tip sheet and discovered it was mislabeled as Richard Allen Whiteman. Shank said she knew there was a Whiteman Drive in Delphi, and when she compared files, she realized the tip was from Richard Allen, who lived on Whiteman Drive. The Allens no longer live at this address.
There are issues with the above statement. For one, the number being "Tip #74" raises questions, and the fact that Whiteman Drive had nothing to do with the tip itself is concerning. If Dan Dulin received the tip, followed up by calling Richard Allen, and even met with him, Whiteman Drive shouldn't be used to explain why the tip eluded so many others. It seems improbable that someone would think Whiteman Drive was significant if the tip had already been followed up on directly by law enforcement. Furthermore, if someone believes Whiteman wasn't important to the trial of Rick, even the jurors asked Kathy Shank a question about Whiteman Drive during the trial.
It’s hard to believe that Dan Dulin, a sworn officer, couldn't figure out who he was dealing with just because Richard Allen's middle name was the street he lived on. What, then, was the point of even bringing up Whiteman Drive if it had no impact on or relevance to the case? This seems like a red herring, and quite frankly, a blatant lie.
And Tip #74, the tip that eluded so many state and federal agencies for over five years, is being presented as so crucial? A good investigator who had already looked into Tips #72 and #73 would likely have been suspicious about what happened to Tip #74. To put it into perspective, if all this information was so important, Dan Dulin, as a sworn officer, needs to explain why Tip #74 wasn’t properly entered into the ORION system. Kathy Shank was given banker boxes full of tips and organized them into five file cabinets. On September 21, 2022, at the bottom of one of those drawers, she found Tip #74. The same cabinets Kathy had organized. How inept is Indiana law enforcement that a sworn officer, who had done the work he claimed in this case—including being at the very first press conference after the murders—did not report his findings properly on a computer? It wasn’t 1917, it was 2017.
Either Dan Dulin is a complete idiot, or Kathy Shank performed miracles by finding something she most likely misplaced herself. And now she’s being hailed as the hero? She was used as a pawn.
This is crucial for All to read. It was from the Comet dated October 30, 2024. Richard Allen being questioned.
“I didn’t do it.”
Richard Allen sat in an interview room at the Indiana State Police Lafayette Post across the table from Lt. Jerry Holeman and repeated this denial, “I didn’t do it.”
Tuesday, jurors watch redacted versions of Allen’s Oct. 13, 2022, and Oct. 26, 2022, police interviews played on a large monitor from the courthouse well. Portions of the video that were redacted were agreed to by attorneys before bringing the jury into the courtroom. Special Judge Fran Gull said the redacted segments are parts not about the investigation and the part containing the actual arrest of Allen at the end of the Oct. 26, 2022, video.
Richard Allen is on trial for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The Carroll County teens were reported missing on Feb. 13, 2017. Their bodies were found the next day, shortly after noon, not far from where Libby recorded a video of a man walking behind Abby on the High Bridge. Jurors were able to see that video and hear the man coined Bridge Guy tell the girl “Down the hill” during testimony last week.
On Oct. 13, 2022, Investigator Steve Mullin and then-Deputy Sheriff Tony Liggett went to Allen’s home to talk with him. He rode with them to the Delphi Police Station, where Mullin told him, “You’re not under arrest. The door is open. We’d be glad to give you a ride back.”
Allen’s Miranda Rights were read, and he signed a document stating he understood his rights.
With Allen seated across the table from law enforcement wearing a black sweatshirt, Liggett began questioning him.
“We just want to know what you saw when you were out (on the Monon High Bridge Trail/High Bridge),” Liggett said.
The three talked about Allen’s emails, phone numbers, and phone carrier, as well as his educational history and work history.
Mullin asked where Allen was on Feb. 13, 2017.
“Uh … I went over to my mom’s in Peru/Mexico. Spent the morning with them. I went home. I remember it was a fairly warm day,” he said. “I walked down to High Bridge and back and walked down to the other side.”
Allen said he left his mother’s home around 11 to 11:15 a.m.
While on the Monon High Bridge Trail, he said he “Sat down on a bench for a few minutes and walked back down.”
“Where did you park?” Mullin asked.
“There is a house and a lane. It wasn’t used. There was a place to park there,” he said. “I parked on the building side of this, is what I’m saying.”
Allen then showed the men where he parked using a paper printout of a map.
Allen said he was familiar with the trail and bridge.
“We visit (the Monon High Bridge Trail) regularly in the summer,” he said.
Mullin then turned the questioning to Allen’s self-reported tip, placing him on the trail on Feb. 13, 2017. The tip, “Tip #74,” was placed in a file box in a desk drawer. On Sept. 21, 2022, Kathy Shank, an investigation volunteer, found the tip sheet and discovered it was mislabeled as Richard Allen Whiteman. Shanks said she knew there was a Whiteman Drive in Delphi, and when she compared files, she realized the tip was from Richard Allen, who lived on Whiteman Drive. The Allens no longer live at this address.
Mullin asked about why Allen reported being on the trail on Feb. 13, 2017.
“It was the next day or a couple of days later,” he said. “I went down because my wife said they wanted to talk to anyone who had been there.”
Mullin then asked about Allen’s meeting with Conservation Officer Dan Dulin shortly after he reported the tip.
“He called when I was in the car,” he said. “I pulled over to talk to him. I was headed to Save A Lot, and I told him I could just meet him there.”
As the interview went on, Mullin asked Allen if he could examine his phone.
“How long you gonna have my phone?” Allen asked.
Law enforcement also asked to search Allen’s vehicle and home with his permission. With this, his demeanor began to change.
“If you want to look around my house, you can get a warrant,” Allen said. “It sounds like you think it’s me … You can search my phone, but you are going to need a warrant for my house and car.
“Man, it’s sounding more like you think I did this. I’m not gonna be somebody’s fall guy. I’m just trying to be helpful. It makes me worried we are even talking.”
“We are talking to everyone who was out there that day,” Liggett said.
Allen then changed his mind about letting the men look at his phone.
“You know what, let me talk to my wife before I do any of this,” he said.
Liggett then read Tip #74, Allen’s self-reported tip stating he was on the trail dressed in similar clothes as Bridge Guy.
“I know I wasn’t out there until 3:30 or so. 1:30 is when I would have left and went home,” he said
“That’s why we are here,” Liggett said. “We’re here because we haven’t found the guy who did this.”
“My wife doesn’t even know I’m here talking to you guys,” Allen said. “I had nothing to do with it. I haven’t been a part of the investigation. I don’t want to be any more involved in it than I need to be.”
Mullin and Liggett stepped out and came back into the room with photos of what they say was Allen’s car driving on County Road 300 North from the Hoosier Harvestore security cameras.
“We talked to your wife and daughter,” they said.
Allen’s wife, Kathy, could be seen crying in the courtroom.
Liggett then showed Allen photos of Bridge Guy.
“Absolutely, not me, Allen said. “I’ve never met the girls. Even if it looks like me, I’ve never seen them … It’s not me. I’ve never met these girls before.
“It’s not something new (them showing him the photos). I know how you guys work.”
“We just need to know what happened,” Liggett said
“You want me to say that’s me,” Allen said.
“We’re all done here,” Allen stated.
Mullin told Allen he believed he was a nice guy.
“A lot of what we are trying to do here is the information is showing us one thing, and you’re saying another,” Mullin said.
“It feels more like I’m being interrogated,” Allen said. “You have that I was out there, and I told you from the beginning I was out there. I’ve got nothing to hide.”
Mullin told Allen they were “simply trying to get to the truth.”
“If I thought I had something to offer, I would. I think we are done.
“If that picture was taken from one of the girls’ phones, then it is not me.”
“We have people that saw you,” Liggett said.
“There weren’t that many people who saw me unless they were coming from behind me, and I didn’t see them,” Allen responded.
“If that person is you, we know that person followed the girls and told them to go ‘down the hill,’” Mullin said.
Allen replied, “I don’t even know what you are talking about. Let me stop you here. You’re trying to put words in my mouth … I don’t go out that far anymore. I haven’t in four years.”
“Is that person you?” Mullin asked.
“No,” Allen stated.
“Either you were out there to do this to the girls, or you were out there to introduce the girls to someone else,” Mullin said.
“OK, we went from just talking to me to me luring someone to kill them,” Allen said. “We’re done here, arrest me.”
Mullin said, “On that day, you were on the bridge wearing … .”
Allen then cuts him off.
“I don’t know how you can tell what coat this is,” he said “This is ridiculous to me. That doesn’t even look like a Carhartt coat.”
“You’re right, we can’t,” Mullin said.
“You lost me I’m not going to talk. Like I said, we’re done here. Arrest me or take me home,” Allen said. “You’ve lost my trust. Are you going to arrest me?
“Am I free to leave or not?”
Mullin responded, “You were always free to leave.”
Allen then gets up and walks out.
“Thank you. You’re an asshole,” Allen said as he walked out of the room.
With that statement, several in the jury chuckled.
More denials
On Oct. 26, 2022, the Allens traveled to the Indiana State Police Lafayette Post to retrieve a vehicle that was taken during the execution of a search warrant on their home and property from Oct. 13, 2022.
Holeman opened the interview by attempting to build rapport with Allen. They talked about military experiences and gun ownership.
“I haven’t shot in a long time,” Allen said.
Holeman then discussed some of the items that were taken and tested from Allen’s home.
“The lab asked a few questions. They took a lot of swabs, swabs of everything,” he said. “Have you loaned out anything we took or tested?
“If I do, I most certainly don’t remember,” Allen replied.
“Did you have any of these knives or gun on you on Feb. 13, 2017?” Holeman asked.
Allen replied, “I didn’t, I just went for a short walk.”
Then, Holeman dives into the findings of the lab.
“Let’s get to the meat and potatoes of this, Rick,” he said.
Holeman tells Allen the extraction marks on the cartridge found at the crime scene matched Allen’s gun.
“The methodology they use is sound,” he said. “They want to lock you up and throw away the key.”
Allen responded, “This is ridiculous. You’ve already started something here; there’s no backing out of it now.”
“Experts say that’s your voice on the video, and now we have your gun,” Holeman said.
“There’s no way, I’m telling you, there’s no way,” Allen said.
Holeman replied, “There’s two sides of every story. Tell us what happened that day.”
“I can’t tell you what happened that day,” Allen stated.
“The truth will set you free. The truth will protect you. If you don’t tell me, you are going down for this,” Holeman said.
“That’s what I would have thought,” Allen said. “Do you realize what you’ve done to me? You’ve talked to people I work with, and you’ve talked to my neighbors … I have anxiety.”
Allen went on to say what people think of him is very important to him.
Holeman said, “Either you had that gun, or someone else had your gun.”
“There is no way that round is from my gun on the bridge,” Allen told him. “You are trying to accuse me of killing two little girls.”
Holeman quickly rattled off multiple questions, “What were you doing on the bridge? How did your round get there? Why did you kill those two girls?”
“Anyone who knows me knows I could never, even if I wanted to, I could never do anything like that,” Allen said. “You’re trying to get me to confess to something I didn’t do. There’s no way the gun you took from my house ended up at a murder scene or anywhere else.
“If that was next to a murder site or anywhere else, it didn’t come from my gun.”
Holeman tells Allen the death penalty is on the table, the exaggeration or lie is an interview technique Holeman learned in training, which he testified to earlier in the trial.
“I’ve dealt with not wanting to live for 7 or 8 years; go ahead and kill me. I don’t give a (expletive). It will make my wife rich,” Allen said.
Allen’s wife shook her head from side to side as he spoke of what he told law enforcement is his battle with depression and anxiety.
“I’ve never communicated with Abby and Libby. I’ve never even met them,” he said.
Holeman then read Allen a warrant to collect his DNA.
“You just took my DNA … The damage is done,” Allen said.
Holeman told Allen he was trying to help him.
“The girls have a video of you on the bridge, your voice. Five witnesses saw you on the bridge with the girls,” he said.
“It didn’t happen. I don’t care how stressed out I get; I’m not going to admit to something I didn’t do,” Allen said. “There is nothing that you have that is going to implicate me because I wasn’t out there. You’re not going to prove something I didn’t do.”
Holeman told Allen he was allowing him to set the narrative.
“If you don’t (the media and social media) will make it up,” he said.
Allen responded, “I just don’t know how I am supposed to act.”
“Your conscience is trying to tell you this is the day, this is the time,” Holeman said.
“I’m done. If you’re gonna arrest me, arrest me. I’m done talking to you,” Allen said, appearing agitated. “Nothing you have is gonna show me at the murder of two little girls.”
Holeman leaves the room and tells Allen to “Sit tight.”
Holeman returned and began again, telling Allen witnesses saw him on the bridge with a gun in his pocket.
“I didn’t have my gun,” Allen said. “There is no way a bullet from my gun ended up at the murder of two girls.
“I told you I was on the trail. I didn’t tell you I was at a murder scene.”
Allen then said, “I’m done.”
“You and I both know what happened. They walked right by you,” Holeman said.
“No, they didn’t, I never even seen them,” Allen said. “I’m not gonna say someone walked by me I didn’t see.
“You obviously don’t believe me,” Allen said, seeming exasperated. “I’m not gonna tell you I did something I didn’t do.
“I don’t know how I can make this any clearer. I am not going to tell you something I didn’t do.”
“We know you were out there. We know you have anger issues,” Holeman said. “Maybe the girls said something to you. You racked your gun to scare them (the cartridge) pops out.”
“I didn’t murder two little girls. I went for a walk on the trails, and I went home,” Allen said. “This is ridiculous. I’m not gonna keep repeating myself.”
Allen continued to deny having any connection to Abby, Libby, or their murders.
“When is the last time you carried a gun?” Holeman asked.
“It was like February something,” Allen said.
“Feb.13,” Holeman said.
Allen continued with his denials of involvement. A short time later, Holeman brought Kathy Allen into the interview room. Holeman tells Allen he told Kathy about all of the evidence they have against her husband.
“I don’t think you’re a bad person, and neither does she,” he said.
“What kind of a good person kills people,” Allen said.
Allen then says, “I didn’t do anything. I didn’t. I didn’t, what did you call it, scheme with someone else. I wasn’t involved with these two girls in any way, shape, or form. I have never even seen them before.
“I can’t explain something I don’t know.”
Allen then turns his attention to his wife, “It’s alright, baby. It’s gonna be alright. They’re trying to tell me you actually believe that. I can’t believe that. It didn’t happen. I didn’t even have my gun.
“You know me. You know this is something I could never do. I don’t know what they are trying to do here. There is no way. I didn’t murder anybody. I didn’t help someone try to murder someone.”
“How did the bullet get down there?” Kathy asked her husband.
“I can’t explain it. I don’t know how to explain something I don’t know,” Allen said as his wife became visually emotional.
“I’ve never even seen them, period,” he said. “I get what they are saying.”
“There’s a witness that said it was you out there. They say they showed them a photo,” Kathy said.
Allen then reminded Kathy of what he had told her about going out on the bridge that day.
“I love you, baby,” he said.
Kathy replied, “I love you too.”
Allen then kissed his wife.
“They’re not gonna get away with it. I know you know me, and I know you know I would never do this,” he said. “What they are doing to you right now … I’m sorry you are having to go through this. I’m sorry I am having to go through it. I care about what people think. You know I care about what people think.
“I don’t care what they do to me. I’m not gonna admit to something I didn’t do. I just know I never carried my gun unless we were going mushroom hunting, walking in the woods, and fishing.”
“How would a bullet in your gun get out there?” Kathy asked.
“I don’t know. I can’t explain it,” Allen said. “There are two explanations: the bullet didn’t come from my gun, or it didn’t come from a murder scene.
“They want you to think that I done it. That’s what this is all about, but you know me better than that.”
Holeman reentered the room, and Allen and Holeman both raised their voice.
“This ain’t (expletive) TV, this is realistic,” Holeman said. “You can’t get past this.”
“Can you please let my wife out?” Allen asked.
“Tell him to do the right thing,” Holeman said to Kathy Allen.
Turning to Allen, he said, “You’re gonna put your family through this for no reason.”
Kathy stands, and they embrace. He then kisses his wife and says, “I love you, baby.”
Allen then turns to Holeman and yells, “You’re gonna pay for what you are doing to my wife. You want to (expletive) with me, (expletive) with me.
“I’m done talking. Arrest me.”
Allen then puts both arms in front of him as if to be cuffed.
“I’d be happy to. You’re guilty, and I’m gonna (expletive) prove it,” Holeman said.
Court records show that Kathy Shank received the tips in a number of bankers boxes, which she then organized into five filing cabinets. So, the tip that Shank found wasn't hidden at the bottom of a drawer—it was most likely placed there by her.
Prosecutor Nick McLeland, in a post-sentencing press conference, said, "I want to thank Kathy Shank. Without her, we would not be here. Without her countless hours of going over filings, scanning documents, looking at reports, and having the wherewithal to bring this to the attention of Sheriff Liggett—saying, 'Hey, I've never seen this before. Has anybody followed up on this person?'—without her, we would not have had an arrest, a conviction, or a sentence. She was the key part of this investigation, the needle in the haystack, if you will, that brought this investigation to a close and allowed us to make an arrest."
The importance of this tip is crucial in this case, as it is the reason Richard Allen is serving a 130-year sentence. Therefore, the origin of the tip and why it was missed must be thoroughly investigated.
If we are to take the word of a 75-year-old female volunteer who claims to have solved the largest case in Indiana's history, and someone is now suffering the consequences of her discovery, questioning the integrity of the tip is essential. We all want answers, and we all deserve the truth.
Now, consider a few things: Kathy Shank was good friends with Becky and Mike Patty, Nick McLeland, Sheriff Liggett, Robert Ives, Judge Diener, Judge Fouts, and many others. Kathy once told Becky that she would love to help find closure—and she did just that.
And finally, what 25 state and federal agencies couldn't find for over five years, Kathy Shank allegedly found at the bottom of a drawer. It's hard to believe that, given the protocols followed in investigations from 2017 to the present, a random tip would have gone unfiled in the system and hidden away in a cabinet drawer.
- Crime Scene Photos – Leaked Photos -
We need to lay this to rest. Leaked photos or not, the jurors and the courtroom saw those same pictures, so saying anything about a previous leak is irrelevant. They argue that sharing these photos revictimizes the victims and their families. Tell JonBenet Ramsey's dad that. He never got closure, and the photos of his dead 6-year-old daughter were shared with the world. And before anyone throws a fit, Libby's private parts are covered, and Abby is fully clothed. It's not as big of a deal as law enforcement and the prosecutor are making it out to be. They might be afraid that something could point to something ritualistic. We grew up watching movies like Faces of Death, or documentaries about Holocaust victims thrown into piles of bodies. So, ruining Abby and Libby's reputations should have nothing to do with the crime scene photos. Having and sharing crime scene photos that were found online is not against the law. Once something becomes public record, it will always be public record. We are strictly out for the truth.
Point blank: "Whiteman" was a deliberately created red herring diversion tactic that meant absolutely nothing. Whiteman should never have been an issue for Kathy Shank or anybody else. Dan Dulin took the stand and stated he followed up on Richard Allen—not Richard Allen Whiteman. He even testified that he called Richard Allen on the phone.
If Kathy found a tip that had already been checked and cleared with a green sticker, why was it not already entered into the FBI ORION system? Is this incompetence on the part of the FBI, or does the responsibility fall on Carroll County Sheriff Liggett?
If a tip is the primary reason someone has been arrested, convicted, and sentenced to life, it’s entirely appropriate for the public to speak up if they believe an injustice has occurred.
Let’s examine the timeline:
- Original self-tip by Rick: Called in February 16.
- February 18: Dan Dulin met with Rick at Wahlman's.
- February 22: Press conference held, which Dan Dulin attended.
Here’s a simple question: Officer Dan Dulin, considering this is likely the most significant case in Indiana history, why was February 18, 2017, the only day you "forgot" to turn your camera on and record the interaction? That’s a hard pill to swallow. And yet, on February 22, 2017, as you stood on stage at the first press conference, it didn’t cross your mind once that just four nights prior, you had interviewed “CVS Rick” but failed to record it? You even marked it with a green “cleared” sticker.
Are we supposed to believe that in the six years since, you never mentioned his name, nor did you enter his information into the ORION system or Unified Command? And that it took a 75-year-old volunteer to uncover the tip you failed to log into the system? Kathy has painted you as a clown, Mr. Dan Dulin. Are you even fit for service?
As for Doug Carter: A long time ago, he said, "I'd love to tell you the story, but today is not that day." Now, as that day has passed, he tells us, "We all tried the best we could," and suggests that if we don’t like how justice is handled in rural Indiana, we should just "skidaddle, you and your shadow." Ok he didn't say that last one, but pretty much, that's how justice is done in these parts of the country, if you don't like it, move on.
Why did Kathy Shank mention Whiteman as being involved in the tip that led her to believe it might be fruitful? How does mentioning 'Whiteman' change anything, considering that the proper procedure should have already been followed? And now, knowing that Dan Dulin followed up on Richard Allen and contacted him by phone and in person (not Richard Allen Whiteman), was 'Whiteman' mentioned as a diversion to explain why the tip hadn't been properly filed?
Two Bridge Guys? There Can't Be Two.
Today, Richard Allen was sentenced – same story, different day. Right before Christmas, Rick gets 130 years in prison. I'm reviewing the press conference, and there’s one key takeaway that must not be forgotten: Nick McLeland openly declared to the world that Richard Allen is the “Bridge Guy” responsible for murdering Abby and Libby. McLeland can try to play pretend, but the truth is, in 2017, FBI Special Agent Nikkole Robertson and her team conducted voice analysis and concluded that the voice saying “down the hill” belongs to the Bridge Guy. They named Ron Logan as a suspect in the murders, and the FBI explicitly identified the “Bridge Guy” as Ron Logan.
McLeland may want to rewrite history, but this is public record. There cannot be two Bridge Guys. How is it that Carroll County’s prosecutor and sheriff are considered more credible than the entire FBI, trained at Quantico? Even if you disregard the fact that Ron Logan is dead, it shouldn’t change the fact that Richard Allen didn’t kill those girls.
I will continue to shout from the rooftops that there cannot be two Bridge Guys. Point blank. Same case, same investigation, unified command, FBI—read Ron Logan’s search warrant.
And speaking of heroes, let’s talk about Kathy Shank. Imagine her as a 75-year-old superhero, cape on, soaring through the sky—only to unexpectedly shit herself mid-flight. If there isn’t a town named after her or parades in her honor, then why did she spend all that time volunteering? She deserves her own float. It took Kathy two years to move and organize that file cabinet, and at the bottom of the drawer, in a box with a bow on top, lay the tip that no one—neither the FBI nor 25 other state and federal agencies—could find for over five years. Kathy calls it divine intervention. I say, give her a lie detector test because we have questions.
Kathy Shank has publicly stated that she found the tip and took it to Sheriff Liggett. But in an interview with The Comet, you said that on the day you found the tip, Liggett was at your office. Which one is it, Kathy Shank?
Prosecutor and law enforcement officials have publicly shamed Richard Allen, questioning why he showed no emotion when the girls’ bodies were shown at trial. How is he supposed to act? That’s what someone who’s been framed looks like—after being chewed up by inmates, spat out, and left broken. And don’t get me started on Becky Patty giving victim impact statements. It makes me cringe and pray that she’s struck down by lightning.
A huge reminder to the world: Rural Carroll County, Indiana. The Delphi girls got a $1M memorial ballpark, and the Flora girls got a bench.
Thoughts on the Gag Order
If the state and law enforcement were still investigating the case even after Richard Allen was arrested, what sense does it make to immediately impose a blanket gag order on families, lawyers, and law enforcement? If the gag order started in November 2022, yet they were still asking for tips, how could any suspects or persons of interest be pursued? How could evidence be gathered when nobody is allowed to speak about the case? I have emails from Doug Carter and Jerry Holeman over the past year about the Delphi murders and the Flora fire, and I’ve got their responses.
Did anyone else notice how deeply Doug Carter seems to hate Baldwin and Rozzi? His disdain runs deeper than the anger he should feel for the brutal child killer they just convicted and sentenced. Doug Carter, Jerry Holeman, and Judge Gull openly can’t stand Baldwin and Rozzi. They claim it’s because of the leaked photos. Really? Those same photos were shared with jurors and in the courtroom. So why is this still being discussed, especially when it was never proven to be done on purpose?
Judge Gull harbors a grudge against Baldwin and Rozzi, even though she appointed them, fired them, and was told by the Supreme Court that she was wrong. She’s held that grudge ever since. Doug Carter and Holeman, whenever I brought up the infamous 136-page Franks memorandum, were both furious. That’s when the five-year-old secret was finally exposed. Liggett and Shank opened Pandora’s box, setting the wheels in motion to get Rick arrested, charged, and convicted. The secret was that there were many other suspects who had been investigated, and the world never knew about it. Three cops—Ferency, Click, and Murphy—never even had Richard Allen on their radar. That’s why Click approached Unified Command. He gave them all the information from his investigation, including pictures, videos, flash drives, etc. But Unified never contacted Click again. Apparently, the Ferency-Click-Murphy investigation didn’t fit the state’s narrative.
Since day one of the investigation, law enforcement was already pulling the "okey doke" on us all, asking for tips when the case had already been solved. They did it right in front of our eyes and still got away with it. Richard Allen is the most innocent man alive, and it's crucial that he survives, especially now. Indiana, along with Judge Gull and Nick McClelland, have undermined the entire judicial system, making a mockery of our Constitution and our country. They bamboozled the world, and many believed it. The defense's narrative was the truth.
The night before Richard M. Allen's sentencing, the saddest part of this entire situation is the reality that nothing will change what happens tomorrow. The sentencing will take place, an appeal will likely be filed shortly thereafter, and we’ll wait, hoping that our little innocent friend, Rick, can survive much longer. They’ve completely broken that man.
I’ve heard that a post-sentencing press conference will be held, including representatives from the Indiana State Police, Carroll County Sheriff’s Office, and the victims’ families. I’m eager to hear what they all have to say, especially now that the world has seen their dirty work—the Masonic, good ol' boys network mentality at play. Indiana is over-policed. You can get pulled over just because.
One thing that surprises me the most is the lack of recognition for Kathy Shank, the 75-year-old volunteer who found the crucial tip that had eluded 25 state and federal agencies for over five years. Why isn’t she on the cover of magazines or newspapers? What she did was astonishing and deserves not only recognition but also the reward money. Kathy Shank deserves the reward as much as the world deserves an explanation for how this happened.
She outwitted thousands—from the FBI and ATF to science lab technicians, sheriffs, and state troopers. There should be a town named after her, yet tomorrow, it will be because of the tip she found that the wheels were set in motion to bring us to today—the sentencing for the murder of two girls. This tip, found hidden in a box, led to this moment. It sounds like an amazing story, but it just doesn't feel realistic. If the tip had been from Dan Dulin, it would have been entered into the system already.
Are we to believe that during the largest high-profile case in Indiana history, Officer Dulin, who always records when he's working, didn’t record the day he supposedly spoke to Richard Allen? Even the notes are gone. And since Dan Dulin was at the first press conference, wouldn't the tip he received a day or two before be crucial? Is Dan Dulin that negligent? Moreover, if Dulin had written any report, it would be in the system, not hidden at the bottom of a drawer in a mystery box. That’s not how things work.
I’m looking forward to the press conference tomorrow. Let’s see how well these actors perform. Doug Carter will likely play his part well, but will Becky Patty pretend like she finally has closure? Probably. Liggett and Shank, however, should be rewarded with an article or some recognition. Heroes like Liggett and Shank deserve a float in the Carroll County Christmas parade.
Delphi Murders: Wow, just two more days until Rick is sentenced. Even worse, Judge Gull is the one handing down the sentence. If the maximum sentence is 130 years, Gull will most likely sentence Allen to 300 years, plus life—or even the death penalty. This is Delphi, Indiana, and the "good ol' boys" network gets away with everything. Carroll County, City of Delphi—home of corruption and the good ol' boys.
What I wish would happen—or what I imagine—is that the 12 jurors, being human beings themselves, after hearing what was kept from me and others, would speak out. I could never bring myself to send someone to prison for life if some of the truth was withheld from the jurors at trial. I picture all 12 jurors showing up on December 20, 2024, the day of sentencing, loud and with something to say. As powerful as that would be, it’s not realistic. Even if it did happen, it wouldn’t change what is legally set to happen that day, on the 20th.
The truth is, there are rules and procedures that must be followed for a proper appeal in his case, and that involves time—weeks, months, sometimes years. In Indiana, if there’s a confession, it’s considered a murder state, and they’ve certainly made their case. However, if the U.S. Constitution is part of the Indiana judicial system, it has been completely stripped and removed from this case. Every amendment in the Constitution was violated against Richard Allen, except the Third Amendment. Just one violation of a constitutional right is serious enough, but multiple violations? That’s unthinkable.
It has all been ignored and brutally violated right in front of us. B&R were removed from the case, and the Supreme Court ruled that Judge Gull was wrong. Ever since then, she has ruled in favor of the prosecution on everything and denied anything filed by the defense. Outwardly, blatantly, and publicly acting with revenge toward B&R, it’s been astonishing. I can honestly say that nothing has been as publicly and outwardly done as this. First, the state bamboozled the world by pretending to ask for tips to help solve the case, and now it’s the prosecution and Judge Gull teaming up against B&R—and it’s clear who ended up winning.
So, although some of the world bought into it, many of us who knew something was wrong spoke out. Yet, nothing was done about it. We were loud, trying to expose the mix-up in suspects and the evidence pointing toward a ritual, but also revealing major corruption in Carroll County. It doesn’t get much more crooked than Indiana, the crossroads of Amerikkka.
As the gag order is supposed to be lifted on December 20, 2024, I hope to hear interviews on YouTube. Maybe the Pattys, possibly the jurors, or hero Kathy Shank will share their insights. Doug Carter has promised to give us answers, and we are holding him accountable. ISP Superintendent Doug Carter, you told us to hold you accountable for every decision made in the Delphi case—and the day is coming.
For now, we must pray for Rick’s safety. We all feel his and Kathy’s pain, from a few states away. Until the appeals and appellate lawyers can take over the case, Rick must survive and stay strong. He is a frail and broken man—physically, mentally, and psychologically—and already down the tubes. But he must endure.
Living in California, the heart of melting pots, I’ve found that, for the most part, law enforcement does their job with integrity. Yes, there are some bad apples, but I’ll admit that my own experiences—like getting hogtied—were likely the result of my own actions. That said, when someone is arrested in California, it’s typically for a legitimate reason, especially with body cameras in use now, which protect both the public and officers. Even if police officers don't always follow proper procedure, it’s hard to deny that the person being arrested is often guilty of the charges they're facing.
In contrast, in Indiana, while many officers are competent and dedicated, there are also significant issues, particularly in rural areas like Carroll County. It seems like they didn’t get the memo that their dirty laundry has already been exposed to the world, yet they continue to act as though they’ve done a noble job. In the case of Richard Allen, the man accused of killing Abby and Libby, I firmly believe he is innocent, and I am not alone. The Delphi law enforcement community, for the most part, agrees. It is clear that Richard Allen was framed.
Sadly, if you don’t know the story, you might just accept the narrative that Allen is the killer because that’s what the media and law enforcement have portrayed. The whole situation has been a smoke and mirrors show, lasting for over five years. It wasn't until Tony Liggett, who later won the election for sheriff, opened Pandora’s box on the case, sparking a series of events that led to an arrest. That arrest was the beginning of what would eventually expose a very ugly truth.
The arrest led to the defense team reviewing the discovery evidence and crafting the 136-page "Franks Memorandum." This document revealed the secrets the police had been hiding from the public. Now, the truth is out, and it doesn’t look good for the investigation. There were many persons of interest in the case, some of whom were interviewed, recorded, and then disappeared. The crime scene itself was painted as a ritualistic killing, purposely staged to be seen by the world. However, law enforcement ignored the possible link to Odinism, and there’s a good reason for that: Richard Allen didn’t fit the profile of such a killer.
To murder two innocent girls in such a brutal way, with post-mortem activities involved, the killer must have likely done something like this before. There were others involved—sick individuals, probably high on something—who should have been investigated, but they weren’t.
December 20 is rapidly approaching, the sentencing date for Richard Allen. Sadly, nothing is going to change that, unless his appellate lawyers can intervene. I’m not sure if Allen will have to attend the sentencing, but it seems unlikely he’d want to hear any impact statements from the victims' families, especially since he is not guilty. The truth is, he has become a scapegoat. If Becky Patty reads any impact statements, I can only hope she is struck by lightning, as her statements have been filled with deceit and greed.
In any other state, beyond a reasonable doubt would actually mean something, but in Indiana, it often seems like 50% of cases are built on falsehoods, driven by good ol' boy networks. Indiana is, without a doubt, one of the dirtiest states when it comes to law enforcement. From the governor to the county clerk, everyone seems connected and does things their own way. And if you're not already part of that system—especially if you're a minority—Indiana is not a welcoming place. Add facial tattoos, and you'll stick out like a sore thumb.
Indiana, as a whole, is over-policed. There are too many cops and not enough crimes, which leads to harassment becoming their main job. The state’s motto, "Crossroads of America," unfortunately also evokes a darker history, particularly when tied to lynchings and racial violence. While the phrase refers to Indiana’s central location and transportation infrastructure, it is also linked to the state’s history of racial violence. In the early 1900s, Indiana saw several lynchings, particularly of Black men who were accused of crimes without evidence. These brutal acts were meant to terrorize and enforce white supremacy.
Freemasonry and white supremacy have long been intertwined. Masonic symbolism often includes references to crossroads as places of decision or transition, and in some of their rituals, the crossroads may hold a darker, more sinister meaning. This connection further compounds the state's problematic past, making it clear that the crossroads of America have historically been marked by violence and racial injustice.
Although Richard Allen is white, the situation still reflects the longstanding influence of a select group of individuals who make decisions, often disregarding laws, and framing whoever they deem fit. While the Delphi case may not have been racially motivated, the individuals involved in the killings are associated with white supremacist groups such as the Vinlanders and other nationalist factions. The "good ol' boys" network has a strong hold over the entire Indiana judicial system, which further complicates the case.
Abigail Williams, Liberty German, and Richard Allen all deserve better than what happened to them. It is a sad day for justice when it becomes one-sided, ultimately meaning there is no justice at all.
For 12 jurors to unanimously convict Richard Allen, they would have had to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. Yet, the circumstances surrounding Allen’s arrest, trial, and subsequent conviction raise critical questions. There are inconsistencies, lost evidence, and confessions made under duress—factors that should have caused the jury to question the integrity of the case.
The Confessions: Coerced and Involuntary
Allen's confessions, which surfaced after his arrest, were made under extreme psychological distress, including a drug-induced psychotic episode. These confessions were coerced by the conditions in which he was held—constant manipulation, isolation, and abuse. The highest-ranking correctional officers at Westville Correctional Facility were huge, intimidating figures, all wearing patches on their uniforms hailing to Odin. These officers were involved in threatening Allen, coercing him into confessing, and enlisting others to help break him down mentally and physically. Allen lost 50 pounds during his time in this facility. Meth was placed in his food, and he was regularly injected with Haldol, a powerful antipsychotic drug, which only worsened his mental state. Add to that the constant lack of sleep, food, and basic human care, and you have a man who was broken, isolated, and vulnerable.
Given that Allen was heavily medicated and deprived of food, sleep, and mental clarity, it’s vital to consider how much these confessions were influenced by his compromised state. Statements made in such conditions are often unreliable, shaped more by suggestion and manipulation than by actual memory.
The Missing Evidence
So much exculpatory evidence in this case has mysteriously disappeared. To start, 70 days of interviews with 3rd party suspects were lost—magically erased—due to a DVR malfunction, including the first crucial days after the murders. Additionally, the notes taken by law enforcement during these interviews have also vanished. Even worse, critical DNA and fingerprints found at the crime scene are now gone. The recording of Dan Dulin’s conversation with Richard Allen—gone. Whatever hasn’t magically disappeared was still not allowed to be used in Allen's defense at trial.
Richard Allen's phone location data also mysteriously disappeared, most likely because it didn’t align with the state’s timeline of events. This missing evidence is not only suspicious but raises serious questions about the handling of the case and the credibility of the evidence presented against Allen. How can anyone believe in the integrity of this investigation when so much vital evidence has vanished, or was actively kept from the jury?
The Crime Scene Timeline
In 2019, Fire Chief Darrell Sterrett stated that he had blanketed the entire area around the Monon Bridge, the creek, and the banks over three separate searches, covering the time span of 6 PM to approximately 2 AM. Despite having powerful lights that could illuminate the area like no other, and being granted permission by Chief Mullin to clear the area, they found nothing. Sterrett asked Mullin if he could officially check off the area as cleared, and Mullin agreed. If the bodies had already been at the crime scene, they would have had to have been overlooked during these thorough searches conducted by hundreds of people using lights throughout the night.
However, the bodies weren’t found until later, at 12:15 PM, but experts did state that Libby’s phone was turned on at 4:30 AM, which aligns with the timing when the bodies were most likely being staged on February 14, 2017. This supports the theory that the bodies were not at the scene during the hours of the search but were placed there later, after the search had already been conducted. The phone’s activation, along with the evidence of where Libby’s phone was found—under Abby’s body, in a shoe—provides crucial evidence that the bodies were placed at the scene well after the searches had taken place.
In order to believe that Richard Allen committed the crime, you would have to believe that the bodies were already at the scene, yet somehow overlooked by the hundreds of people combing the area with lights. The timeline doesn’t fit with the physical evidence, and it casts serious doubt on the prosecution’s narrative.
The Role of Kathy Shank and Detective Tony Liggett
Let’s not forget that for over 5 years, the case remained unsolved despite the efforts of over 25 state and federal agencies. And yet, it was Kathy Shank, a 75-year-old volunteer who goes to bingo, who found the tip that eluded them all. This tip, which simply stated that Allen had been on the trail that day, set the wheels in motion for his arrest. Shank passed the information on to Detective Tony Liggett, who quickly moved to arrest Allen. However, there is reason to believe that Detective Liggett, who was behind in the polls for sheriff, had a personal stake in ensuring Allen’s conviction. After Allen’s arrest, Liggett won the election. This connection calls into question the motivations behind the investigation.
Due Process and the Jurors’ Decision
The most troubling aspect of this case is the 12 jurors who convicted Richard Allen, despite the significant doubts surrounding the evidence and the confessions. Due process, a fundamental right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, demands that an individual’s guilt be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. In this case, there are clear indications that Allen’s rights may have been compromised—especially when the evidence supporting his guilt is so weak and his confessions were made under duress.
While the jurors may have been influenced by the prosecution’s narrative, it’s important to question whether their decision was truly based on the facts of the case or whether they were swayed by circumstantial evidence and coerced confessions. The system of justice exists to protect the innocent, but in this case, it seems to have failed to do so.
The Exclusion of Key Information
With so many crucial pieces of information kept from being brought up at trial, the jurors should rightfully feel frustrated and betrayed. The facts that were withheld were not secret; they were public knowledge, information that could have made all the difference in shaping their understanding of the case. Key figures, alternative theories, and the possibility of other suspects were excluded from the trial. The jury was never allowed to hear these details, which were already available to the public. Jurors are not dumb—they should not have been expected to simply convict someone based solely on coerced confessions.
The exclusion of this critical information undermines the fairness of the trial. The jurors were denied a full and honest picture of the case, and it’s reasonable to assume they may have made a different decision had they been allowed to consider all the facts.
Judge Gull’s Bias and the Denial of Motions
Judge Gull's clear animosity towards Baldwin and Rozzi further complicates this case. Any motion presented by the defense was quickly dismissed, usually with the response: "Denied without a hearing." This blatant disregard for the defense’s arguments demonstrates a serious bias in the proceedings and raises questions about the impartiality of the trial. With the defense constantly shut down and key evidence being ignored, the jurors were effectively deprived of a fair trial.
Now, the Confessions
Now, with all that's been said, those confessions better be powerful enough to convince 12 jurors that Richard Allen is indeed the "bridge guy" and the killer of Abby and Libby. These confessions came well after Allen had been arrested and placed in a maximum-security prison, hours away from the crime scene. These confessions were coerced out of him—threatened, manipulated, and broken down to the point where he was made to say anything.
Imagine Richard Allen: naked, with a dog collar and chain around his neck, paraded through the prison by the highest-ranking correctional officers as inmates cheer him on. He’s spit on, covered in shit and piss, completely broken. They destroyed that man. In a drug-induced psychotic episode, you’re alive, but you’re not fully conscious. You don’t remember what you say, and it’s usually the worst of it. Surrounded by the best manipulators in the world—convicts—those inmates used the power of suggestion to make Allen believe that he had committed the murders. Haldol injections, meth in his food, lights on 24/7, lack of sleep, and deprivation—what would you say?
This doesn’t excuse what Allen said—he obviously made those statements. But we have to remember: this was not a sane, clear-headed individual speaking. It was a man broken by the system and the environment he was in.
At trial, a memory of Richard Allen I hold close to my heart, there was a video of Allen—naked, covered in feces, jerking off while looking into the camera, singing "God Bless America." That man had been pushed to the absolute brink of human suffering. But he didn’t slit the throat of Abby and almost decapitate Libby. He didn’t leave their eyes wide open, enjoying post-mortem activities with them. He wasn’t that man.
Conclusion: Justice or Revenge?
Ultimately, the key question remains: Did Richard Allen commit this crime? Given the lack of physical evidence, the questionable nature of his confessions, and the dubious circumstances surrounding the case, the answer is far from clear. The decision of the 12 jurors should be revisited, as there is strong reason to believe that the case against Allen was built on shaky ground. Justice should not be determined by who can make the loudest case, but by whether the evidence truly supports a conviction.
Justice never came for Abby and Libby, but it did come for the Pattys and law enforcement. The case against Richard Allen seems more about satisfying a narrative than about uncovering the truth. It’s a chilling reminder that the pursuit of justice can be skewed when the full story is kept from the people who are meant to decide a person’s fate. In this case, the system failed to protect Richard Allen, and it failed to ensure that the truth was fully exposed.
The late Greg Ferency, Todd Click, and Kevin Murphy—distinguished law enforcement officers and FBI agents—compiled both a 12-page "Odin Report" and an 85-page police report that named Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, and Johnny Messer as the killers of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Tragically, Greg Ferency was killed in the line of duty in 2021 by a white supremacist, causing the investigation led by these three officers to cease. A year later, Richard Allen was arrested for the murders, and Todd Click reached out to unified command, sharing the findings from their earlier investigation. However, unified command took no action on this information and continued to focus on Richard Allen as their primary suspect. In addition, any findings in that investigation, including possible 3rd party suspects, were not even allowed to be mentioned or used at trial, in the defense of Richard Allen.
Now, if you were an investigator in the Delphi case, which of the following two scenarios would you choose to believe?
Over 25 state and federal agencies were unable to solve the case for more than five years. However, a 75-year-old volunteer found a tip that had eluded everyone else. This tip, originating from Richard Allen, indicated that he had been at the trails on February 13, 2017. He was subsequently arrested, charged, and later convicted of four murders. Importantly, not a single piece of forensic evidence connects Richard Allen to the crime scene or the victims. At 50 years old, Allen had no criminal history, and there was nothing in his past suggesting violence or any ties to predatory behavior.
Three officers—including FBI agents who worked on the domestic terrorism task force—named several suspects involved in the Delphi murders. Brad Holder’s son had dated Abby. Patrick Westfall and Johnny Messer had no alibi for the time of the murders. Elvis Fields admitted to being involved in the killings and knew specific details about the crime scene in 2017—details that were only revealed to the public in 2022. Elvis Fields confessed to two of his sisters about his role in the murders, and both passed polygraph tests. Amber Holder, Brad Holder’s relative, named Patrick Westfall as one of the perpetrators, and she also passed a polygraph test. Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Johnny Messer and Elvis Fields were all associated with the Vinlanders, a white supremacist gang well-versed in Asatru and Odinism.
The crime scene itself hinted at something ritualistic: the girls’ throats were slit, one of the victims was undressed and then redressed, their bodies were moved and staged, and their eyes were left wide open. Sticks resembling runes were placed on their bodies, and the letter "F" (resembling the Ansuz rune) was painted on a tree using Libby’s blood. The reason law enforcement avoided identifying the crime scene as ritualistic or connected to Odinism is because Richard Allen had no ties to Odinism. This omission likely stems from the fact that Allen’s background offered no connection to these belief systems.
In contrast, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, and Johnny Messer were all active members of the Vinlanders, a gang known for practicing Asatru and Odinism. Brad Holder had been bragging about the murders since 2017. Patrick Westfall admitted to the crime during an interview on the "Sleuth Intuition" YouTube channel. Elvis Fields also confessed to his involvement, claiming the killings were part of a gang initiation. Johnny Messer borrowed his girlfriend’s car, and blood was found inside when he returned home. None of these individuals have a verifiable alibi for the 22 hours during which the victims were missing.
The Delphi case saw multiple investigations. In 2017, FBI Special Agent Nikkole Robertson and her team conducted an investigation, as did Unified Command. The third investigation involved Ferency, Click, and Murphy. However, the only case that went to court was the one led by untrained and inexperienced Detective Tony Liggett, who was later elected sheriff. Strangely, a tip that had been missed by all law enforcement agencies was allegedly discovered by a volunteer at the bottom of a drawer. This tip led to Richard Allen’s arrest, prosecution and conviction.
The defense attorneys representing Richard Allen faced numerous roadblocks. Shortly after taking on the case, Judge Gull unlawfully removed the attorneys from their positions, despite there being no legal justification. The Indiana Supreme Court disagreed and reinstated the attorneys. However, since that ruling, Judge Gull consistently ruled against the defense, including numerous violations of Allen’s constitutional rights. Proving someone’s innocence in a court of law is difficult, but it is not the defense’s job to prove their client’s innocence; it is the prosecution’s responsibility to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Despite the overwhelming presence of reasonable doubt, Allen was convicted. Not one witness placed Richard Allen at the crime scene, yet he was found guilty. This raises the question: was the case rigged? The Patty family holds considerable influence in Delphi, and the jury selection appeared suspicious. The jurors were from Judge Gull’s county, specifically from Fort Wayne, where there may have been undue pressure to deliver a verdict for the sake of closure. After the trial, jurors would have learned the truth about the case, but if none of them speak out now, it seems increasingly clear that Richard Allen was framed and railroaded.
Final Reminder of Fact: On February 13, 2017, when the girls were still missing, police asked Becky Patty who she thought would do something like this, she said, Brad Holder, and he's an Odinist and his son Logan was dating Abby.
Becky Patty had the most to gain out of all this. False closure to shut people up.
For those that still think Odinism and Asatru is make believe or some hocus pocus, please be sure to do your research, because it's real af.
Asatru Practice and Heathen Holidays
People who practice Asatru are known as Asatruars or Heathens. Asatru, also referred to as Wodanism or Germanic paganism, is closely linked to Odinism.
Heathen Holidays (Northern Hemisphere)
Here are some key Asatru holidays and their upcoming dates:
- Yule: December 21, 2024
- Midwinter: January 13, 2025
- Disting: February 13, 2025
- Summer Nights: April 12, 2025 – April 27, 2025
- Ostara: April 12, 2025
- Sigrblót: April 27, 2025
- May Day: May 1, 2025
- Midsummer: June 20, 2025
- Lokabrenna: July 13, 2025
- Sponge Cake Day: September 4, 2025
- Harvest: September 17, 2024 – September 21, 2025
- Lammas: September 6, 2025
- Haustblót: September 21, 2025
- Winter Nights: October 17, 2024 – November 1, 2024
- Álfablót: October 17, 2024
- Dísablót: November 1, 2024
- Sunwait: November 14, 21, 28, December 5, 12, and 19, 2024
Notable Dates:
- November 21: Yule (in 2016)
- February 13: Disting (in 2017)
Asatru Rituals and Celebrations
Asatru, with its ties to Odinism, is practiced through a variety of blóts (sacrificial rituals) and ceremonies held on specific dates. For example, Patrick Westfall and Brad Holder both practice Asatru. Westfall openly admitted his faith and shared his teachings with Holder.
The High Feast of Yule marks the beginning of the Runic Year, which is sacred to the gods Thorr and Freyr. Asatru groups generally celebrate Yule around the winter solstice, also known as sunwait, when the light of the sun is triumphantly returning after the dark days of winter.
Another key event is the Feast of Vali, celebrated late on the evening of February 13. This feast commemorates the death of Hothr at the hands of Vali. It was originally a winter festival symbolizing the return of sunlight, but in modern times, it has become a celebration of family. It is a time for exchanging cards and gifts with loved ones, similar to the contemporary practice of Valentine's Day.
- The modern revival of Ásatrú began in Iceland in the 20th century. Sveinbjörn Beinteinsson, a farmer who became a priest, published a book of Icelandic poetry in 1945 and is considered the first high priest of the religion.
- Beliefs
- Ásatrú is a polytheistic religion that focuses on the gods Odin, Thor, Frigg, Tyr, and Baldur. Some beliefs and practices include humanism, reconstructionism, and viewing the gods as metaphorical constructs.
- Values
- Ásatrú is based on Viking-era traditions, but also incorporates modern values like acceptance and environmental protection.
- Organization
- The Ásatrúarfélagið is the recognized national organization of Ásatrú in Iceland. The organization was founded in 1972 and has grown to include nearly 2,400 members.
- Recognition
- Several countries have officially recognized the Ásatrú movement.
Summary: All of these dates and rituals happen to be just coincidences? Detectives and Investigators in Indiana have Failed Miserably at doing their job. All of the killers of 6 girls in Indiana can be traced directly back to Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields & Johnny Messer. Serial killers, living amongst us all. It's sickening. Somebody needs to file a motion to remove the state of Indiana from the United States of America. Freedom and the Constitution holds nobody safe in Indiana, Carroll County being the worst. The Flora Fire and the Delphi Murders. Justice for Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, Kerriele, Liberty and Abigail.
How Bad is Law Enforcement in Indiana? Even when people from California and beyond are telling law enforcement who the real killers are, they pretend they never hear us, but they hear us. They respond. But lie over the phone anyways. Indiana Law Enforcement Sucks! You cross the Blue Line, you lose your job, or sometimes your life. "Do not do anything to discredit this agency" DC the Riddler. In other words, you cross the blue line, you are gonna wish you didn't.
Over the Phone with ISP Lt. Jerry Holeman: I told him I think that Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields and others are responsible for the Delphi Murders and the Flora Fire. His response: All of those people have been double and triple checked, and have all been cleared.
Reminder: The Common Denominator between the Delphi Murders and the Flora Fire is ISP Supt. Doug Carter. He told us all to hold him accountable. Let's make sure that happens before he retires and disappears. He publicly lied to all of us for years. We deserve some answers and we want the truth!
Kathy Shank and Her Involvement in the Delphi Case
Kathy Shank, a retired Department of Child Services worker, became an unexpected key figure in solving the 2017 Delphi murders of Abigail “Abby” Williams, 13, and Liberty “Libby” German, 14. In 2022, five years after the tragic deaths, Shank, who had volunteered at the Carroll County Prosecutor's Office, stumbled upon a lead sheet while organizing tip sheets that had been collected during the investigation.
In 2022, while reviewing these tips, Shank noticed a clerical error on a lead sheet written by Dan Dulin. The sheet was marked with the name “Richard Allen Whiteman,” but after a closer examination, Shank realized it was referring to Richard Allen, a local man. The tip stated that Allen had seen three girls while walking along the Monon High Bridge Trail between 1:30 and 3:30 p.m. on February 13, 2017. This matched the timeframe during which Abby and Libby were believed to have been murdered.
Shank recalled that a group of girls had reported seeing a man on the trail, later identified as the "Bridge Guy." Taking this connection seriously, she brought the lead sheet to Deputy Sheriff Tony Liggett. Liggett agreed with Shank's insight, recognizing that identifying this man could potentially lead to the killer.
At the time, the investigation had been at a standstill. Despite receiving over 14,000 tips, the case remained unsolved for years. Abigail and Libby had been dropped off for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail around 1:35 p.m. on February 13, 2017. At 2:07 p.m., Libby took a photo of a man walking on the bridge. When the girls did not show up for their 3:15 p.m. pickup, their families contacted the police. The girls' bodies were found the following day, and their throats had been slit.
However, Richard Allen’s name had previously gone unnoticed in a box filled with tips, until Kathy Shank rediscovered it. The note about Allen stated that he had seen three girls during his walk on the trail, but it had not been fully investigated at the time. Once Shank connected the dots and realized the tip's potential significance, she submitted it to the detective in charge of the investigation.
Though Allen’s name had initially been overlooked, it was eventually confirmed that he had worked at a local CVS pharmacy and had remained in the area. In October 2022, Allen was arrested for the murders, and the case took a significant turn.
Shank’s role in bringing attention to the overlooked tip is a crucial moment in the investigation. Despite her instrumental involvement, her actions and the tip discovery have not received widespread public recognition, sparking some questions about why she has not been more publicly acknowledged for her contribution to solving the case.
I can't even make this stuff up folks. In 2015 a Board of 19 members was created with members including Kathy Shank, Nick McLeland, Judge Diener, Judge Fouts, Steve Mullin, Tobe Leazenby, Robert Ives and others. If Kathy Shank did what she said she did, why isn't she on the cover of People or Time Magazine? How the tip came about is extremely hard to believe. Anywhere else, as many as the numerous, conflicts of interest in one case, would've simply never happened, but this is Delphi and that's normal round here. And we are forced to believe that the volunteer, 75 year old bingo lady, found the missing link in the case that not even 25 state and federal agencies could find? The numbers are next to impossible.
"The Indiana State Legislature changed sentencing laws in the past two years and it is expected more offenders will stay local rather than be transferred to the Department of Corrections (DOC). The impact of this decision could be more offenders housed in the Carroll County Jail, which is usually very close to its capacity of 34 inmates. The State is encouraging all counties to establish Community Correction Programs where a program is not present, which includes Carroll County."
"The 19-member Community Corrections Advisory Board was established in March of 2015. Members include: – Carroll Superior Court Judge Kurtis Fouts; – Carroll Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Diener; – Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby; – County Prosecutor Robert Ives; – Chief Probation Officer Justin Sheagley; – Carroll County Council member Steve Pearson; – Delphi Chief of Police Steve Mullin; – Delphi Mayor Randy Strasser – Delphi Mayor-elect Shane Evans as of Jan. 1; – Carroll County Department of Children’s Services Director Jennifer Johnson; – Delphi Community High School Principal Ann Marie Circle; – Wabash Valley Alliance Director Danielle Majors; – Attorneys Patrick Manahan and Nicholas McLeland; and – Community members John Chapman, Kathy Shank, Jeff Wise, Mary DeFord, Rick Widner and Lance Alter."
https://www.carrollcountycomet.com/articles/newest-county-department-has-first-meeting/
Kathy, I hate to be the one to say this, but based on how the story has been unfolding, Kathy Shank is likely to pass away soon, and Rick will likely be found dead. In the current narrative, Rick is considered collateral damage. Prayers for Rick—what’s done is done. While any appeal Rick might pursue would likely succeed, these things take time, and Rick may not have that luxury. People have died in Carroll County under mysterious circumstances, many involving fire, which is the best way to destroy evidence. We’ve linked over 30 unsolved deaths across cities in Indiana, all directly connected to the Delphi case. The abuse of power must never be tolerated, as it undermines the very foundation of "We the People."
December 20 is fast approaching—the day of sentencing. It will be a sad day, but also a day when those no longer under gag orders will finally explain why they contributed to framing an innocent man for one of the most heinous crimes in the state’s history. The community needs closure because the Pattys have known who the real perpetrators are from day one.
Becky Patty, while the girls were still missing, Officers asked who they thought would've done something like this, and Becky mentioned to Trooper Purdy that Abby Williams had dated Brad Holder’s son, Logan. She also revealed that Logan's father, Brad Holder, was an Odinist. Brad and his son somehow managed to avoid consequences for their actions, as everything that seemed to happen, did, in fact, happen. Brad Holder and his associates should be incarcerated. So, why is Brad Holder protected by law enforcement? The answer lies in meth and money.
According to reliable local sources, there was a meeting scheduled under the bridge that afternoon involving lowlifes, meth heads, cookers, and members of the Vinlanders. According to Elvis Fields, it was part of his Initiation. This is likely what transpired: the girls were abducted and weren’t found until the next day on Ron Logan’s property, near the creek, yet authorities couldn’t obtain a search warrant for the rest of his property for a month. Many locals believe that Logan Holder asked the girls to come to the Monon that day and Ron Logan, Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall set the girls up, abducting them and holding them captive on Ron Logan's property—specifically in the basement or cellar. The girls weren’t killed or left at the crime scene on February 13, or else their bodies would have been discovered immediately. Never forget that Ron Logan texted at 8 p.m. and 10 p.m. on February 13, 2017—on the same day at, guess where? At the actual Crime Scene!
Imagine the police officers’ reactions when they first saw the crime scene—it was likely the most horrifying thing they had ever encountered. One girl was naked, the other dressed. Both had their throats slit, and post-mortem activities were involved, such as the collection of blood—most likely kept from Abby. Libby's blood was likely used to create an “F” on a tree (Ansuz) in the woods, reminiscent of an Asatru-style crime scene. The killers ensured the girls were positioned in a way that suggested ritualistic intent. Abby was most likely hung upside down at some point—post-mortem staging at its worst. The girls eyes were purposefully, wide open! They were proud of their work. In Tarot cards, the bodies were displayed as "the hanged man" and "the magician."
But what happened while they were held captive? We may never know, but it’s likely they endured sexual assault and physical abuse—the worst possible scenario. People often overlook the 22 hours the girls were unaccounted for, which suggests multiple possibilities. If you believe the girls were killed and staged on February 13, there is no concrete evidence to support that. The 22-hour timeline started around 2:30–3:30 p.m. when the girls were abducted and taken in a vehicle—possibly a car or even an ATV.
Sheriff Leazenby, of all law enforcement officials, needs to give an interview now that the gag order is lifted. Sheriff Leazenby, please explain why the search was called off on the evening of the 13th. Why did you claim a lack of resources and that it was too late to continue the search, when Fire Chief Darrell Sterrett said just the opposite? Sterrett stated that his team had searched the area with lights multiple times and found nothing.
After the girls were found, Leazenby called off the scent dogs he asked for, coming from out of state and said they were no longer needed. K9 dogs are also tracking dogs, and the ISP in 2017 had 40 tracking dogs. Leazenby has a history of questionable behavior—he is allegedly involved with Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and even Ron Logan and Crystal Meth. Many locals have told me that the first unreported or undisclosed search warrant at Ron Logan's home took place the evening of February 14, after the bodies were discovered. This could explain why all law enforcement was parked at the cemetery.
Inside Logan’s basement and garage, authorities reportedly found guns, knives, clothing, and victim DNA—clear evidence linking the property to the crime. While Ron Logan wasn’t into Asatru himself, many of his meth-using associates were, and he allowed them to use his property. In a hidden interview, Logan stated, “Yeah, they were trying to pin it on me. Pin it on people who weren’t involved as much.” Even though Logan was on probation, his sheds and garage were off-limits to law enforcement, yet his rights were allegedly violated.
Logan Holder reportedly invited Abby and Libby to come to the area. Ron Logan and Brad Holder were directly involved in the abduction, luring the girls with a gun. Why was Logan protected? Could it have been because of his constitutional rights, or would law enforcement have charged him with the double murders if not for that? The police and federal agencies despise him, and Logan shares that sentiment. So why would he be shielded from prosecution?
Brad Holder (federal informant) and Patrick Westfall likely orchestrated the murders and the crime scene staging. They probably had associates like Elvis Fields, Ned Smith, Rod Abrams, Johnny Messer, and others involved. Leazenby’s decision to call off the search for two missing young girls is extremely suspicious. Why didn’t they issue an Amber Alert or continue the search through the night until 4:30 a.m., when Libby’s phone was turned on and found in a shoe under Abby’s body? Most likely when the crime scene was being staged.
Now, with multiple lies told by Leazenby, it becomes even more questionable. He also stated in a documentary that fingerprints and DNA—none of it from the victims—were collected. So what’s the explanation now? Doug Carter promised answers, and now we wait.
And Patrick Westfall told us all in his interview exactly what happened and he was absolutely right.... Slight of hand.
Kathy Shank, the lady who found the tip. The following is from the Carroll County Comet dated October 26, 2022, when Liggett was running for Sheriff. So many strange coincidences in this case. Rick was arrested on October 26, 2022 when he went to pick up his car. And the Letter to the Editor is also weird. Why would Abby and Libby's names be mentioned in there? Read it yourself.
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Liggett deserves your vote
Working with Tony Liggett for the past five and a half years has given me the opportunity and insight to not only witness his personal integrity but also his work ethic and commitment to his profession as a dedicated law enforcement officer. I have observed him as he accepted responsibility for his assigned duties as detective for the Sheriff’s Office. I have witnessed his willingness to assist road officers to ensure their safety without a moment’s hesitation. I am aware of his numerous responsibilities within the Sheriff’s Office in addition to being the sole detective at this time. Currently as chief deputy he has many additional assigned tasks which he accepts and manages with respected professionalism.
Tony has full working knowledge of the duties and responsibility that the position of the sheriff of Carroll County requires. He has developed a rapport with the County Commissioners and Council as they now pave the way for the much needed jail and Sheriff’s Office headquarters. Tony knows the critical needs facing the Sheriff’s Office at this time which are the Abby/Libby investigation, recruitment, retention and updated tools and equipment such as body cameras. He has and will continue to address these needs and advocate for those needs to be met to ensure the best protection and service to the citizens of Carroll County.
Tony Liggett has the knowledge, expertise and commitment to assume the position of Carroll County Sheriff today. Join me to ensure on Nov. 8 he will be Sheriff Tony Liggett on Jan. 1, 2023.
Kathy Shank
Flora
And to remind everybody including myself why Kathy Shank has a lot of explaining to do. She owned an Appraisal Company in Flora. Was very good friends with Becky and the Patty family for decades. Kathy was part of the fabric of Carroll County, having personal friends, including Nick McLeland, Judge Bean, the Yoders, and Judge Fouts just to name a few. Kathy owned an Appraisal company, and the Patty's did Appraisals. And she is the lady that outsmarted all law enforcement agencies ever involved in this case? Kathy Shank, the 75 year old Bingo Lady found the Tip nobody else could? It's a little too hard to see that as being factual or even possible. I call bullshit. 20 days after Liggett arrested Richard Allen, he won the election as Sheriff. Who had the most to gain? We want answers! And we want the truth!
The Tip isn't just Something in the case, it's Everything!
"Mark My Words"
Mark my words: On December 20, 2024, on the sentencing day for Richard Allen, Judge Gull will impose a gag order on the jurors. I don’t know if it’s allowed or even if it’s the law, but knowing Judge Gull, she does whatever she pleases, gets away with it, and faces no consequences. Given the high-profile nature of this case, the public deserves to hear from the jurors who voted guilty about why they did so. It's a simple question.
Can we also ask the jurors if they were made aware of anything that was kept from them during the trial? The truth is public record. What many people want to know is, after learning what really happened and what was hidden from them, do any of the jurors feel guilty? Would they change their decision if they had the full picture? If I had been a juror, after hearing the truth, I would’ve been deeply offended, and you wouldn’t be able to silence me.
Judge Gull, if you impose a gag order on the jurors, I hope Abby and Libby come back to hold you accountable, by snatching your soul. Gull also fired the defense attorneys she had hired for Richard Allen, which was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court had to intervene and allow them back onto the case. Revenge seems to be the only motive Gull has. The Supreme Court made her look foolish because of defense attorneys Baldwin and Rozzi.
After speaking with both ISP Superintendent Doug Carter and ISP Lieutenant Jerry Holeman, and seeing how Judge Gull has treated those attorneys, it makes me wonder why Gull, Carter, and Holeman have so much animosity toward Baldwin and Rozzi—more so than even toward the suspected child killer. The source of this hatred likely stems from the day the explosive 136-page Franks Memorandum was released. The five-year secret, once hidden from the public, was now exposed. Details in the memo show the crime scene being presented as a ritualistic act. If the state is trying to distance Richard Allen from Odinism or Asatru, it raises questions. The state even called the “F” painted in blood on the tree an upside-down “L.” Come on, let’s get serious. Anything involving a ritual has ties to Odinism, and it doesn't fit the profile or character of Richard Allen.
In case you haven’t heard me before, remember this: Not everyone dies with their eyes open. Most people die with their eyes closed, but Abby and Libby’s eyes were wide open. It’s just another detail that suggests staging and thought during post-mortem activities.
Tip #74 - Kathy Shank: A Vital Contribution to the Delphi Case
Kathy Shank, a long-time friend of the Pattys for decades, played a key role in the Delphi case. In 2018, she helped support the Pattys with the L&A Memorial Park, and she even volunteered to serve food at the auction. Kathy also publicly expressed her desire to help Becky Patty find closure. At 75 years old, Kathy, a volunteer, was handed dozens of folders and tips from a filing cabinet and tasked with sorting through them. Astonishingly, she discovered Tip #74, a crucial lead that had eluded countless investigators, forensic scientists, and homicide detectives from 25 state and federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, over a span of five years.
How was it possible that a 75-year-old volunteer, a friend of Becky Patty, found Tip #74 when no one else did? The odds are staggering, and it's nothing short of miraculous.
What Has Tip #74 Done for the Case Since Its Discovery?
Tip #74 was a voluntary statement made by Richard Allen, who admitted he had been on the trails on February 13, 2017. If this tip was actually discovered by Officer Dan Dulin, as some suggest, questions arise as to why Officer Dulin did not properly record the interview or enter the tip into the Orion system. Instead, Kathy Shank passed this critical tip on to Detective Tony Liggett, who had struggled for years to solve the case. Upon receiving the tip, Detective Liggett took action and followed it, eventually leading to Richard Allen’s arrest.
While the FBI later stated that there was no clerical error in handling the tip and that proper protocol had been followed, the importance of this discovery cannot be overstated. Without it, the case might still be unsolved, lost to time.
Detective Liggett, using this lead, began questioning Richard Allen, and this chain of events ultimately led to his arrest. Ironically, Tony Liggett's persistence in pushing forward with the investigation, which some might view as driven by personal ambition, ultimately triggered a series of events that changed the course of the Delphi case.
Why Kathy Shank Deserves Recognition
Kathy Shank's actions proved to be the turning point in this case. Without her finding Tip #74, the investigation would have remained stagnant. It was Kathy’s diligence and dedication that set off a chain of events that brought justice closer to reality. Tony Liggett’s pursuit of the case, although politically motivated at times, ultimately led to the breakthrough that many had hoped for.
Kathy Shank deserves recognition and reward for her unwavering commitment and for providing the key that unlocked the mystery of the Delphi case. She deserves the Reward Money, because we deserve an explanation.
An Analysis of the Delphi Case and Broader Implications
Introduction to Doug Carter's Statements
Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter ("DC the Riddler") has made numerous cryptic statements throughout the investigation of the Delphi murders. These include:
"We believe you are hiding in plain sight. It’s all about power to you. You want to know what we know. We’ve probably interviewed you before."
"Directly to the killer, who might be in this room right now: How is everybody going to look at you when they hear what you’ve done? Only a coward could do something like that. One day, I’ll be sitting across from you. I won’t be mad; I just want to ask why."
While Carter’s statements are emotionally impactful, they reveal deeper systemic issues within the investigation. Despite the resources of over 25 state and federal agencies, including access to advanced forensic labs and experienced investigators, the case remained unsolved for over five years. This raises questions about investigative priorities, communication strategies, and judicial oversight.
Forensics and Investigative Failures
Doug Carter touted Indiana's $30 million forensic lab facility, claiming it had the "best of everything," but later admitted that science alone wouldn't solve the case. Instead, he emphasized the power of public involvement. This raises key contradictions:
DNA Evidence: Modern courts often treat DNA as more compelling than fingerprints. Why, then, was the emphasis shifted away from forensic evidence?
Evidence Preservation: Many reports suggest that law enforcement failed to properly preserve evidence, some of which could have been exculpatory for suspect Richard Allen.
Sketches and Witness Descriptions: Carter frequently referenced the sketches of "Bridge Guy," but these have been criticized for being non-photographic interpretations that are unlikely to hold weight in court. Even if the sketches identified someone present on the trail that day, this does not necessarily link them to the crime.
Judicial Oversight and Criticisms of Judge Frances Gull
Judge Frances Gull, appointed to preside over the Delphi case after Judge Benjamin Diener recused himself, has been a lightning rod for controversy. Key points of concern include:
Bias and Impartiality: Indiana Code of Judicial Conduct 2.11(A) requires judges to disqualify themselves if impartiality can reasonably be questioned. Gull’s consistent rulings in favor of the prosecution and dismissals of defense motions have raised questions about her impartiality.
Gag Orders: Gull’s gag order has silenced victims' families, law enforcement, and court personnel, raising concerns about transparency in a case of immense public interest.
Defense Attorneys’ Removal: Gull’s removal of defense attorneys Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi—and their subsequent reinstatement by the Indiana Supreme Court—suggests a troubling dynamic. Gull’s treatment of the defense team, including allegations of maligning them as "incompetent" and "sloppy," undermines the principles of fair trial.
Connections to Broader Issues
The Delphi case is emblematic of deeper systemic problems in Carroll County and beyond:
Cultural and Historical Context:
Carroll County has a history of racial tension and connections to the KKK. Also connected to Aryan Brotherhood, including The Vinlanders Social Club.
Demographics: 96.8% White, 1% Black, reflecting a deeply entrenched racial divide.
The Flora Fire:
Occurring just 84 days and 10 miles from Delphi, the fire claimed the lives of four young Black girls.
The contrast in public response and reward amounts—$5,000 for the Flora fire versus $325,000 for Delphi—highlights systemic racial and socioeconomic disparities.
The Delphi Girls got a $1M Memorial Ball Park, and the Flora Girls got a bench.
Ritualistic and Symbolic Dimensions
Some speculate that the Delphi murders and Flora fire bear the hallmarks of ritualistic acts or political corruption, meant to serve broader agendas:
Economic Motivations:
Community enrichment, recreation, and tourism have reportedly been bolstered by the tragedy, suggesting potential financial incentives behind the failure to resolve these cases.
Masonic Influence:
Indiana’s historical ties to Freemasonry raise concerns about conflicts of interest and protectionist practices among local elites.
Conclusion: Accountability and the Path Forward
Doug Carter repeatedly stated that if anyone should be held accountable for decisions in the Delphi case, it should be him. However, the inconsistencies, judicial misconduct, and broader systemic issues suggest a failure at multiple levels. The case has exposed:
Institutional Failures: The inability to preserve critical evidence and reliance on ambiguous sketches.
Judicial Mismanagement: Judge Gull’s alleged bias and lack of accountability.
Cultural and Socioeconomic Inequities: The stark disparities between the Flora fire and Delphi murder investigations.
Now that the trial is over, the public demands answers. The time for cryptic statements and judicial overreach is over. Transparency, fairness, and adherence to the rule of law are the only ways to restore trust in this deeply fractured system.
Most Importantly: Expose Flora, and it will continue to expose Delphi.
I am truly at a loss for words. Whether right or wrong, 12 jurors from Allen County, Indiana, particularly from the city of Fort Wayne, found Richard Allen guilty of all four murder charges. Realistically, if 12 jurors voted to convict without any forensic or physical evidence directly tying Rick Allen to the crime scene, then what they heard must have been incredibly compelling. Even though his confessions were rambling and not in his typical state of mind, he admitted to the crime. Could the jurors have been influenced by what they heard? It must have been something powerful for them to believe he was guilty.
The state claims that Rick Allen showed up at 1:30 p.m. at the trails and the Monon High Bridge. He was walking and using his stock ticker, and at 2:13 p.m., a picture showed a time stamp that has now been proven to be doctored. Is the 2:13 p.m. timestamp a coincidence? Could law enforcement have been playing games with us? The state alleges that Rick forced the girls down the hill. According to Detective Harshman, by 2:32 p.m., Rick heard a white van approaching (presumably Brad Weber's van), which startled him. In response, he allegedly forced the girls across the creek, killed them, undressed them, and redressed Abby. The sticks found near the bodies were arranged in a specific pattern resembling Asatru belief runes. Libby’s body also had leaves placed on her nipples.
The prosecution argued that when Rick was startled by the van, it triggered a psychological "undoing," a form of guilt or remorse. However, if this were the case, why did Rick then cross the creek, kill the girls so brutally, and leave their eyes wide open rather than closing them in any apparent attempt to undo the act? Between 2:33 p.m. and 3:56 p.m., Allen was reportedly at the crime scene, under the bridge, and near the creek, preparing to frighten the girls into silence by cocking his gun. Strangely, no one saw Rick, and he allegedly escaped unnoticed.
By 3:57 p.m., Richard Allen was seen walking on County Road 300 North, muddy and bloody, by Sarah Carbaugh. At 3:14 p.m., Libby's father, Derrick German, was on the Monon High Bridge, but he didn’t hear anything suspicious. Between 3:30 p.m. and 4:00 p.m., the entire family and volunteers began searching for the girls. By 5:00 p.m., Mike Patty contacted law enforcement. If Rick was parked near the old CPS building, backed into a parking spot, and was seen walking along County Road 300 North, that means he passed the Mears entrance to the trailhead, where many cars belonging to the family and volunteers were parked. It’s strange that a bloody and muddy Richard Allen could have walked right by this area and not been noticed. If there’s video footage from the Mears camera showing Allen’s car, there should also be footage of him walking past. But that evidence likely doesn’t exist. Indiana law enforcement has a troubling history of losing or tampering with evidence, often citing DVR errors or negligence.
Regarding Libby’s phone—the one that recorded the infamous "bridge guy" video—it never powered off fully until the bodies were found the next day at noon, according to the prosecutor. If the bodies were placed at the crime scene on February 13, Libby’s phone should have been under Abby’s body in a shoe. However, Libby’s family and friends had been trying to call her phone, and even Becky Patty confirmed that Libby’s phone was off. At 5:30 p.m., something was plugged into Libby’s phone—either a charger or a headphone—likely to charge it, until 10:30 p.m. The phone must have been off during this time, or earlier. The prosecutor claims that at 4:30 a.m. on February 14, Libby’s phone powered on underneath Abby’s body. Experts testified that the phone had been handled by a human between 5:30 p.m. and 10:30 p.m. on February 13, a time when many people were searching for the girls, including law enforcement and volunteers. If Richard Allen did kill the girls, why would he—or anyone—have Libby’s phone when it should have been under Abby’s body?
The most logical explanation is that someone else handled the phone on the night of February 13, possibly while disposing of and staging the bodies. It’s worth noting that the crime scene, which was so horrific, should have been easily discovered on February 13 during the extensive searches between 3:15 p.m. and 2:30 a.m. around Ron Logan’s land, near the creek and the bridge. By 4:30 a.m. on February 14, Richard Allen was reportedly at home with his wife, Kathy. During the evening of February 13, between 5:30 p.m. and 10:30 p.m., Richard Allen was also home with Kathy.
If the state were to suggest that Rick Allen acted with others, it would at least warrant consideration. But the idea that one man, a 50-year-old CVS worker with no criminal record, could have brutally murdered Abby and Libby on his own and gotten away with it for so long raises serious questions. How did he leave no forensic or physical evidence, save for a "magic bullet"? Was Allen wearing a hazmat suit, or did he escape in an invisible jet ski, or perhaps a time-traveling machine?
Westfall Flew and Carter Knew - Turk 182
The last I recall, the reward money for solving the Delphi case had reached $325,000. Interestingly, Richard Allen, who ultimately provided the tip that led to his own conviction, might technically deserve that reward. However, if not him, then perhaps it should go to Kathy Shank, a dedicated volunteer and bingo champion, who discovered Tip #74—the pivotal tip that broke the case wide open.
If this case, likely the most high-profile unsolved murder in Indiana’s history, was indeed solved thanks to Tip #74, then the importance of that tip cannot be overstated. It led to the investigation, arrest, and eventual conviction of Richard Allen for his heinous crimes. The public deserves to understand the significance of Tip #74 and the role it played. How did Kathy Shank find it, and who did she report it to? As the story goes, she passed it on to Tony Liggett, a street detective running for sheriff but struggling in the polls.
Liggett began following the lead, and less than 20 days after arresting Richard Allen, Liggett became the new sheriff. While the timing of his election victory raises questions, his investigative acumen does not inspire confidence. Kathy Shank and Liggett together make Elvis Fields look like Albert Einstein—they are, quite frankly, not known for their intellectual prowess.
Let’s recap the impact of Tip #74:
- It broke the case after five years of dead ends.
- It initiated the investigation into Richard Allen.
- It directly led to Allen’s arrest, charges, trial, and eventual conviction.
- It eluded over 25 state and federal law enforcement agencies.
Given its importance, how can Tip #74 not be scrutinized further? Its contents and implications deserve a closer look.
In depositions, Liggett and Holeman admitted that neither fingerprints nor DNA collected at the crime scene matched Richard Allen. Furthermore, his electronic devices revealed nothing incriminating. Allen had no known connections to the victims, Abigail Williams and Liberty German, and—crucially—no ties to Odinism or any Norse pagan cult. Yet the crime scene appeared staged to resemble a ritual, reportedly including:
- Runes drawn in Libby’s blood resembling “Ansuz.”
- Bodies displayed to mimic the Hanged Man and Magician tarot cards.
- Eyes of the victims left open.
- Sticks and leaves arranged in specific formations, including leaves placed over the victims’ nipples.
Whether this was an actual ritual or merely staged to look like one, the entire crime scene bore hallmarks of ritualistic symbolism. It’s striking that law enforcement withheld this bizarre and chilling information from the public.
The state’s insistence that Allen has no ties to Odinism is noteworthy—why bring this up if the crime wasn’t painted as a ritual? If Odinism is barred from discussion at trial, it only adds another layer of mystery.
Ultimately, people will draw their own conclusions about Richard Allen’s guilt. Yet, the staged elements of the crime scene suggest a deliberate attempt by the perpetrators to leave their “signature” behind for the world to see. Law enforcement’s duty is to follow every lead, no matter how unconventional or uncomfortable it may be.
A final thought: when authorities urge the public to “See something, say something,” perhaps they should tread carefully. After all, Richard Allen did just that—and is now serving 130 years in prison for it.
Holder Flew and Liggett Knew - Turk 182
With Richard Allen’s sentencing date looming on December 20, 2024, it feels like there’s little that can change the trajectory of this case. After 20 hours of deliberation, 12 jurors unanimously returned a guilty verdict. Yet, this entire process has been shrouded in controversy, leaving many questioning how such a decision was reached and whether justice was truly served.
The saddest part of this travesty is not just the verdict, but how it reflects a broader failure of justice. The state, the prosecutor, and law enforcement employed tactics that undermined transparency and fairness. This “okey-doke,” as it feels, was conducted in plain sight, with little recourse for those who sought the truth.
The Jury and Their Heroes
Did the 12 jurors personally meet the so-called “heroes” of the Delphi case? What was said during those interactions? If Kathy Shank, a 75-year-old volunteer, indeed visited the jurors at their motel, this raises serious ethical questions. If her miraculous discovery of “Tip #74” is the linchpin of this case, then transparency is paramount. How did she succeed where over 25 state and federal agencies, including the FBI, failed? Why weren’t her methods celebrated or scrutinized publicly? If her discovery truly solved the most infamous murder case in Indiana’s history, she deserves recognition—and perhaps even the $325,000 reward offered for actionable tips.
But the lack of transparency about her role, combined with the intertwined relationships between families, law enforcement, and prosecutors, casts a long shadow. The Patty family’s close ties to the Shank family, as evidenced by their public fundraising efforts, should invite deeper scrutiny into potential biases that may have influenced the outcome.
A Broken System of Justice
When abuse of power becomes so blatant and public that it erodes constitutional rights, it shakes the foundation of justice for everyone. This case illustrates how such abuses—like those in other parts of the world—can chip away at democratic ideals and the rule of law.
In Richard Allen’s case, critical defense arguments were systematically suppressed. Judge Gull made repeated rulings against Baldwin and Rozzi, seemingly aligning with the prosecution at every turn. Evidence and testimony that could have pointed to other suspects—like Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, and others—were barred from court.
Even the FBI’s own reports, which identified Ron Logan as a potential suspect and included an 85-page investigation by the late Greg Ferency, Todd Click, and Murphy, were dismissed. How could these reports be deemed irrelevant, especially when they directly contradicted the state’s narrative? Due process demands that a defendant be allowed to explore and present alternative theories of the crime, yet Richard Allen’s defense team was denied this opportunity.
The State’s Story Doesn’t Hold
The prosecution’s shifting narrative raises questions about its integrity. Prosecutor McLeland appeared to prioritize closure over truth, leaving critical gaps in the case unexplored. The state relied heavily on a flimsy timeline and circumstantial evidence. Meanwhile, more plausible leads—like the connection to Odinism or the involvement of other named suspects—were ignored or actively suppressed.
The discovery of the bodies on Ron Logan’s property, combined with FBI voice analytics linking him to the infamous “Bridge Guy,” further deepens the mystery. Why wasn’t this evidence pursued? Why weren’t these connections explored in court? Instead, the prosecution focused narrowly on Richard Allen, despite alternative suspects being cleared without sufficient explanation.
Looking Ahead
Richard Allen’s fate seems sealed for now, pending an appeal—a process that could take months or years. What Rick, his wife Kathy, and everyone involved in this case need are prayers for strength. The road has been rough, and for many, the scars run deep. PTSD from the Delphi case is real and pervasive, affecting not just individuals but entire communities.
Justice for Flora
If there is any hope for truth and accountability, it lies in exposing other failures—starting with the Flora case. Four young girls—Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, and Kerriele—lost their lives, yet their murders remain unsolved. Many of the same players involved in the Delphi investigation had roles in the Flora case, raising concerns about systemic failures in Indiana’s justice system. By demanding answers in Flora, we can shed light on the shortcomings in Delphi and work toward justice for all.
In the end, the goal is not just justice for Richard Allen or even for Abby and Libby—it’s a fight for the integrity of our entire legal system. Until we expose the truth, hold those in power accountable, and ensure due process for every citizen, the shadow of this case will continue to loom large.
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The entire world watched what unfolded with Richard Allen—a man convicted by 12 jurors despite his insistence of innocence. In his first interrogation with Officer Holeman, Rick repeatedly suggested that they were looking for a scapegoat, a "fall guy." He recognized this early on, but by the time he left the police station, the authorities had already begun searching Allen’s home, as they waited for the warrant. When Rick realized he had become the fall guy, it was already too late—the Unified Command had made their decision.
Books are already being written, and movies are being made about the Delphi murders. Now that Richard Allen has been convicted, sentencing looms ahead. He faces 130 years in prison. Yet, the story is far from over. The real truth is even more horrifying than the notion of a "local CVS guy" at the trail that day. It points to monsters lurking among us—cold, heartless, and calculating. The killers of Abby and Libby, as profilers have suggested, are likely individuals with lengthy criminal histories, including domestic abuse and assaults, perhaps with military ties. They would know the terrain of the Monon High Bridge intimately and may have killed before.
The Mysterious "Magic" Tip
A significant lead in the case came from Kathy Shank, a volunteer organizing tips during the investigation. She discovered Tip #74, which identified “Richard Allen, Whiteman Drive” and referenced Allen’s own admission of being at the bridge on February 13, 2017. The tip claimed Allen wore clothing similar to the suspect, “Bridge Guy,” and placed him on the trail between 1:30 and 3:30 PM. However, this tip deviates from Allen’s original statement, in which he simply reported being at the trail that day without providing details about his attire or anyone he saw.
Shank noticed that “Whiteman” was also the name of a local street and flagged the tip to Sheriff Tony Liggett, sparking the investigation into Allen. But questions remain: if all tips were supposedly entered into the Orion tracking system, how did such a vital tip go unnoticed for years? Shank, a 75-year-old volunteer, found this lead while sorting files in a box, seemingly out of nowhere. How could this critical tip evade the scrutiny of city police, state troopers, and federal investigators for so long? The circumstances of its discovery remain perplexing.
Flaws in the Case Against Richard Allen
Richard Allen submitted his tip days after the girls’ bodies were discovered, stating he had been on the trail. Yet this fact didn’t come to light until September 2022—five years later. Meanwhile, the case against Allen is riddled with inconsistencies and missing evidence:
- No Physical Evidence: There were no fingerprints, DNA, or other physical evidence linking Allen to the crime scene. No murder weapon was identified.
- Undetermined Cause of Death: The time of death (TOD) and the cause of death were labeled as "undetermined," though it was noted the girls died from exsanguination.
- Disappearing Evidence: Interviews with third-party subjects, totaling 70 hours of footage, were lost due to a DVR malfunction. Additionally, much of the evidence requested during discovery mysteriously disappeared. Despite the gravity of the charges, the state took nearly two years to provide discovery documents, raising serious questions about due process.
- No Criminal History: Allen, 52 years old, had no prior criminal record other than a seatbelt violation. Described as a quiet man, he worked as a Walmart manager and later as a pharmacy technician at CVS. He had been married to his wife Kathy for over 30 years, with a daughter who has since moved away.
Key Questions Ignored in Trial
The jurors were told that Allen was “Bridge Guy,” the man seen in the infamous video from Libby’s phone. However, they were not informed of earlier FBI findings, which named Ron Logan as "Bridge Guy" based on voice analysis and profiling. If Logan was Bridge Guy, how could Allen also fit that role?
Jurors also weren’t allowed to hear about other third-party suspects—despite the FBI’s profiles suggesting the killer would likely have a history of violence and deep familiarity with the area. None of these characteristics matched Allen.
Unusual Treatment of Allen
From the moment of his arrest, Richard Allen was treated unusually harshly. Instead of being placed in a local county jail, he was sent to a maximum-security facility two hours away. Standing at just 5’4” and with no history of violence, Allen was placed in a harsh environment far removed from his family. His treatment appeared punitive, even before a trial.
Additionally, Judge Gull, who oversaw the case, removed Allen’s public defenders without clear justification. Though the state supreme court later intervened to restore his legal representation, the incident highlighted potential bias and irregularities in the judicial process. Judge Gull also barred any discussion of third-party suspects in court, effectively excluding evidence that could have introduced reasonable doubt.
A Deeply Flawed System
The Delphi case has demonstrated that abuses of power, procedural failures, and a rush to judgment can ensnare anyone—even someone with no history of violence. Richard Allen came forward voluntarily, providing his whereabouts on February 13, 2017. Yet, years later, he was arrested, convicted, and faces 130 years behind bars without physical evidence tying him to the crime.
The state failed to provide a coherent narrative, relying on circumstantial evidence and speculation. Meanwhile, key questions remain unanswered:
- How did critical evidence disappear or remain hidden for so long?
- Why were other potential suspects, like Ron Logan, excluded from consideration?
- How did a case built on such shaky foundations lead to a guilty verdict?
The story of Abby and Libby deserves justice. But justice must be based on truth, not a desperate need to close a case. The real monsters remain free, and the truth about the Delphi murders remains obscured. If this can happen to Richard Allen, it could happen to any one of us.
Kathy Shank, a former DPS worker who began her career in 1971 as a receptionist, has achieved something extraordinary. She claims to have found a critical tip in the Delphi case among a box of tips. Given her likely age, possibly in her 70s, her involvement is nothing short of remarkable. Together with Sheriff Tony Liggett, they brought resolution to what was once considered Indiana's largest unsolved murder case—the Delphi Murders. Yet, where are the accolades? Where are the parties in honor of these heroes? Why hasn’t the media, including outlets like Dateline, celebrated their monumental achievement?
The public is asking for a statement from Sheriff Liggett and Kathy Shank, sharing their thoughts and feelings after solving a case of this magnitude. They deserve recognition for their role in changing history. Their determination and effort, amidst a case involving the FBI, CIA, ATF, ISP, and approximately 25 other state and federal agencies, are truly astounding. Despite the use of advanced systems like Orion and the involvement of unified command, it was Kathy, with her diligence, who discovered the tip—not on a computer but in a physical box.
How did a 70-year-old woman accomplish what some of the most advanced investigative systems and skilled professionals couldn’t? Is Kathy Shank magic? This question isn’t meant to belittle her work but rather to highlight just how incredible her contribution is. It’s difficult to imagine the level of determination it took to sift through that box and uncover a tip that would ultimately crack the case.
The public believes that Kathy Shank and Sheriff Liggett should receive the recognition—and even the reward money—they deserve. We are calling for public acknowledgment and speeches from these heroes. Kathy and Tony, even if you are humble and shy, you have changed history. You are both heroes, and we want to hear your story.
Please, step forward and share how you did it. Let the world celebrate your achievement.
Are we really supposed to believe that, despite 25 state and federal agencies—including the FBI, Indiana State Police (ISP), and Delphi Police Department—failing to solve the Delphi case, Kathy Shank and Tony Liggett managed to crack it on their own? The combined IQ between the two of them doesn’t seem particularly impressive, making this claim hard to believe.
Think about it: a tip that went through the FBI, ISP, and Delphi PD was supposedly overlooked, yet a deputy like Tony Liggett caught it? This is the same Tony Liggett who was trailing in the polls during his campaign for sheriff, despite desperate efforts to drum up support. They even made blue "Tony Liggett for Sheriff" shirts for everyone to wear, including entire police forces. Many in Delphi claimed that if Liggett didn’t win the sheriff’s race, the local law enforcement officers would quit en masse. Conveniently, Liggett "found" the Delphi killer and was elected sheriff just 20 days later.
It’s worth noting that this is one of the most high-profile unsolved murders in Indiana history. If Tony Liggett really solved it, why isn’t there a massive celebration in his honor? Where’s the "Hooray for Liggett" party?
If you’ve ever watched the debates during his campaign, you’d notice how unimpressive he was—coming across as the dullest butter knife in the drawer. Yet we’re supposed to believe that he succeeded where a coalition of 25 state and federal agencies, including the FBI, CIA, ATF, forensic lab technicians, detectives, and investigators, all failed?
We shouldn’t give up on Richard Allen, but it’s important to face the reality of the situation. A jury of 12 found him guilty, and this verdict will likely remain unchanged for months, or even years, until appeals can be heard. The most important thing now is to pray—not just for Rick and Kathy, who desperately need it, but also for ourselves. A mental reset is necessary after witnessing the scales of justice falter before our eyes. The state executed a cleverly deceptive trick, a sleight of hand, to secure this outcome.
Rick faces a long and perilous road in prison. Labeled as a convicted child rapist and murderer, he’s a high-profile target wherever he goes. His fate is now sealed until the appellate process begins, but we cannot lose hope. While supporting Rick, we must also continue searching for the truth—starting with Flora. Exposing what happened there can shed light on what occurred in Delphi, given the striking overlap in key figures and patterns of injustice.
In Flora, the 911 call was ordered released by the courts, yet Prosecutor McLeland spent $100,000 in attorney fees to ensure it remained hidden. He succeeded, but at what cost? I firmly believe that Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall orchestrated the arson fire in Flora. Tragically, the four girls—Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, and Kerriele—died not only due to the fire but also because Officers Yoder and Dissinger entered the burning building without proper equipment. Dissinger ended up rescuing Yoder, leaving the girls behind, though they were still alive. Gaylin Rose, the girls’ mother, was screaming for her daughters, and heartbreakingly, they screamed back. Yet Yoder was hailed as a hero for his actions—hospitalized briefly, then released the same day. While attempting to save the girls was noble, the outcome was devastating.
The Flora fire robbed Gaylin of her four vibrant daughters, and she was unjustly considered a suspect until finally being cleared. The case remains unsolved to this day, a glaring reminder of the racial inequality in Indiana. Four Black girls were murdered, and the reward stands at a mere $5,000. Meanwhile, two white girls in Delphi received a $325,000 reward. The Patty family saw a $1 million memorial ballpark built in Abby and Libby’s honor, while Gaylin and the Flora girls received only a bench. To make matters worse, when the girls’ bodies were removed from the house, they were taken to a fire station and laid out on concrete. A picture exists of them there—deceased, on cold concrete.
The Delphi case was managed by Unified Command, led by the Carroll County Sheriff’s Office. In contrast, the Flora case is under the Indiana State Police, with Superintendent Doug Carter playing a central role in both investigations. The overlap in personnel and failures cannot be ignored.
For those concerned we’ve given up on Rick Allen—know this: we’ve fought hard and loud, but perhaps not loud enough. Sentencing is set for December 20, likely 130 years, with appeals to follow. In the meantime, we must turn our focus to exposing everything that happened in Flora. Doing so could illuminate what truly happened in Delphi. Real justice has yet to be served for Abby and Libby, but we can fight to ensure it doesn’t remain that way for Keyara, Keyana, Kionnie, and Kerriele. They, too, deserve justice.
Rick Allen owns a piece of our hearts—especially for those of us who genuinely believe and know, deep down, that he had no involvement in the Delphi murders. Yet he suffers, and we share his pain. Rick must endure as he always has. His greatest obstacle now is time—the long, excruciating wait for the appellate process to begin.
The connections between Delphi and Flora are chilling. Colton Creasy, a white man dating Gaylin Rose, was associated with Patrick Westfall and Brad Holder, both linked to the Vinlanders, a known white supremacist gang. The Vinlanders, adherents of Asatru (similar to Odinism), are known to despise "race traitors." These same names surface in both the Flora fire and Delphi murders. When we say the “Good Ol’ Boys” run Indiana, it’s not a cliché—it’s a long-standing fact. Indiana is home to the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the Vinlanders, and their influence looms large over these tragedies.
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Using the information provided, in the picture above, I will outline and argue probable cause implicating Brad Holder as a suspect in the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Below is a detailed analysis of the evidence and its connections:
Picture 1: This image shows Brad Holder’s son, Logan Holder, and Abigail Williams during their relationship at the time of the murders. This connection establishes a direct link between Brad Holder and the victims.
Picture 2: A painting from Brad Holder’s Facebook page depicts Odin hanging from a tree. Intriguingly, this painting was dated February 13, 2018—exactly one year after the murders.
Picture 3: At the bottom of Holder’s painting, there is a rune resembling "Ansuz," which closely resembles the letter "F." The rune is painted in red, seemingly intended to resemble blood.
Picture 4: A tree at the crime scene, referred to as the “F Tree,” prominently displayed what appeared to be the letter “F” in blood. Authorities later claimed it was simply an upside-down "L," supposedly a blood transfer from Libby’s hand. However, the “F” symbol and its connection to Brad Holder’s painting and rune suggest otherwise.
Picture 5: Brad Holder posted another rune, made of sticks, resembling the letter "F," which he proudly displayed on his Facebook page. This rune bears similarities to the one in his painting and to the crime scene markings.
Picture 6: Brad Holder’s Snapchat username, BadBrad213, was created well before the murders. The numbers “213” match the date of the murders—February 13, 2017—suggesting a deliberate connection.
Picture 7: A photo of Brad Holder during his military service establishes his identity and potential capability in orchestrating or executing such crimes.
Picture 8: In 2016, Brad Holder participated in a blot, a ritual involving the painting of an “F” symbol on a tree using blood. This ritualistic act further connects Holder to the symbolism seen at the crime scene.
Additional Evidence
Bragging and Cockiness: Brad Holder has repeatedly made cocky and arrogant remarks about the murders, often in a way that suggests he believes he cannot be arrested or charged. This demeanor raises suspicions about his potential involvement and awareness of specific details.
Orchestration: Evidence suggests that Holder and Patrick Westfall orchestrated the murders. Their “minions,” including Elvis Fields and others, allegedly carried out the murders as an initiation into the Vinlanders gang.
Elvis Fields' Confession: Elvis Fields admitted his involvement in the murders to two of his sisters, both of whom passed polygraph tests. Fields claimed:
- He was present on the bridge and at the crime scene.
- Abby was labeled a "troublemaker," leading him to use sticks to fashion horns on her head—a crime scene detail unknown to the public until 2022.
- He spat on one of the victims and carried out the act as part of his initiation into the Vinlanders gang.
Connection to Asatru Rituals: February 13 is significant in Asatru tradition as the "Feast of Vali," a ritual observed the evening before Valentine’s Day. The timing aligns disturbingly with the date of the murders and further connects to Holder’s alleged Asatru practices.
Summary of Key Connections
- The recurring use of the number 213 by Holder, as seen in his Snapchat username, painting date, and the murder date.
- The symbolic and ritualistic significance of the rune “Ansuz” (resembling "F") found in Holder’s work and at the crime scene.
- Statements and confessions made by individuals allegedly under Holder’s influence, describing crime scene details only known to investigators.
These points collectively suggest a deeper involvement of Brad Holder in the planning and orchestration of the Delphi murders. His apparent boldness in discussing the case publicly and his potential ties to ritualistic and gang-related activity strengthen the argument for further investigation.
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It’s crucial for all of us to come together tonight and pray for Richard Allen. He truly needs our prayers right now, but in a way, we need them even more. We’ve faced a difficult and trying journey, standing up for what we believe in, only to see injustice persist. That struggle has left many of us grappling with the emotional toll, a kind of PTSD, as we feel the pain and anguish of this man’s situation.
We’ve done everything we possibly could; now, all we can do is wait. So, when we pray for Richard, we’re also praying for ourselves—for healing, for strength, and for a mental reset that comes from the power of prayer.
Here’s a funny, random fact about the blunders in the Delphi case: at the time of the murders, the coroner for Delphi was Jordan Cree, an 18-year-old high school student. Yes, you read that right. To make matters worse, Cree reportedly got in trouble after being questioned for handing out copies of the death certificates at his high school. By the time the case even reached the pathologist, the time of death was listed as undetermined.
How many more fumbles need to happen before people recognize the blatant conviction of an innocent man? Jordan Cree only became coroner because his dad was one—apparently, that’s just how it’s done in Carroll County. If your dad’s a pimp, you're an assistant pimp.
It’s already happening, folks. America is reaping the consequences of its choices, as KKK-influenced groups continue to gain ground under various aliases, such as the American Guard and others. These movements, often operating under different names and clubs, are deeply tied to actions like mass deportations, which are connected to groups like the Trinity White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
While Americans have been focused on issues abroad—like the treatment of Palestinians by Israel—we’ve been duped into ignoring the problems within our own borders. The United States may call itself the land of the free, but it’s far from perfect. Allowing Donald Trump to ascend to the presidency, despite his known connections to William Bader, the Imperial Wizard of the Trinity White Knights, is a glaring example.
Meanwhile, we’re pouring resources into Ukraine’s war against Russia, further complicating global tensions. Ukraine, led by an ill-prepared Zelensky, now uses long-range missiles funded by U.S. dollars. This has infuriated Putin, who has retaliated by threatening nuclear war. Regardless of anyone’s opinion on his leadership, Putin runs his country the way he sees fit, and it isn’t our place to dictate otherwise.
By blatantly supporting and arming Ukraine in its conflict with Russia, the U.S. has positioned itself in a dangerous game of global escalation. If nuclear war begins, it’s only a matter of time before everyone with the capability to launch a strike does so.
When that moment comes, I won’t be scrambling for a bunker to survive the fallout. Instead, I’ll face it head-on. There’s no sense in sticking around in the aftermath of such devastation. The leaders of the world, locked in an endless contest of power and pride, have brought civilization to the brink of destruction.
Sadly, Richard Allen was convicted due to the Mandela Effect and the power of suggestion. When looking at the "Bridge Guy" image, if someone suggests it resembles Richard Allen, that perception can seem plausible—especially if you don’t know the full story. It’s difficult to argue against someone’s interpretation, as the power of suggestion often shapes our opinions.
What’s truly unbelievable is how the prosecution blatantly manipulated the narrative and got away with it. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. Initially, law enforcement claimed to have fingerprints and DNA evidence, but seven years later, they admitted there were no usable fingerprints or DNA profiles. They promised transparency, saying the investigation would be fully explained at trial, but that day never came. Instead, critical details disappeared before our eyes, and we were expected to simply accept it. That’s not how justice is supposed to work.
Unless the Governor pardons Richard Allen—a highly unlikely scenario—he will spend the rest of his life in prison, wrongfully labeled a rapist and child killer. Overturning a conviction decided by 12 jurors is almost impossible and usually takes years of appeals. By the time such a hearing could occur, it’s doubtful Allen would still be alive to see it. In prison, high-profile inmates like him are targets, especially for crimes involving children.
Despite the outrage from so many people, it wasn’t enough to change the outcome. Once the guilty verdict was reached, Allen’s fate was sealed. It’s painfully clear that he is not responsible for the murders of Abby and Libby and was not involved in any way. He became the scapegoat to provide closure for law enforcement, the families, and the community. Framing Allen was the only way they could resolve this case, and they succeeded, leaving a dark stain on Indiana’s judicial system, Carroll County, and Judge Gull. Conveniently, Judge Gull returned to her own county, avoiding the long-term fallout of this travesty.
Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland has shown himself to be a fraud. While he may be an experienced attorney, as a prosecutor, he has repeatedly failed to convict the right individuals. In this case, he succeeded only in making Richard Allen the scapegoat. The defense’s key evidence and arguments were systematically excluded from the trial, with Judge Gull consistently siding with the prosecution. Many of Allen’s constitutional rights were flagrantly violated, leaving him to face a life sentence with no chance of justice. High-profile cases like this one are a death warrant for convicted child predators in prison.
You might think at least a few jurors would feel guilty after realizing what was withheld from them during the trial. However, none have spoken out, and it’s unlikely they will. These jurors were pressured and nudged into delivering a guilty verdict—partly to satisfy law enforcement and, most importantly, to provide closure for the families. They sentenced an innocent man to 130 years in prison, seemingly without second-guessing their decision.
From the start, law enforcement misled the public, and their dishonesty is deeply hurtful. Exploiting Abby and Libby’s names, they capitalized on the media frenzy and the attention it brought to Delphi and the Patty family. Becky Patty now has a stronghold over all facebook social media groups discussing the case, which extends to a significant influence over the town of Delphi itself.
In the end, the jury convicted Richard Allen based on a fabricated story, one they accepted without question. They believed it completely, as if doing so was the only "right" thing to do—even if it meant framing an innocent man.
The saddest part of all this is that real justice never came for Abby and Libby. Even worse, another man—Richard Allen—has been stripped of his justice, wrongfully and inhumanely. With Allen now convicted, it’s clear Indiana officials have orchestrated one of the most elaborate deceptions in the state’s history. From the highest levels of leadership to the local enforcers, complicity in this cover-up runs deep. All involved should be held accountable.
Yes, the state has succeeded in burying the truth, and yes, Allen will likely spend the rest of his days in prison, possibly dying within months—all seemingly by design. However, this record stands as a testament to what really happened in this tangled web of corruption and control by a network of individuals with unchecked power.
The Delphi murders are just the surface. They’re deeply connected to other unresolved tragedies like the Flora fire, the Burlington fire, the Monticello fire, the Logansport fire, and numerous others, which have claimed over 25 lives. These incidents, primarily arsons and suspicious deaths ruled as overdoses or suicides, remain unsolved to this day. Richard Allen became the state’s scapegoat, a pawn to close the case and conceal the larger, darker truths about Indiana’s systemic corruption.
At the heart of this lies Carroll County—a hub of over-policing and a deeply rooted culture of military-style state policing infused with archaic, discriminatory ideologies. From city police officers and sheriff deputies to correctional staff, university police, and state troopers, the integrity expected of those sworn to protect and serve has eroded. In Carroll County, once you land in the crosshairs of officials—whether county, state, or even federal—they exploit their power to the fullest.
Take, for instance, the unsolved 2019 Monticello fire that killed ISP officer Stephanie Thompson and her high school-aged daughter, Mya. Stephanie, a seasoned first responder and polygraph examiner, perished in a suspicious house fire. Her husband, Judge Thompson, happened to be away that night when the fire broke out at 2 a.m., despite there being no electricity in the house. Why didn’t Stephanie and her daughter make it out? The ATF investigated, yet the case remains unsolved, with no public appeals for tips. Even the Ring camera footage from the night of the fire, stored in the cloud, seems to have vanished into obscurity. Why? Because this, too, was by design.
Yes, the state successfully railroaded Richard Allen, but doing so only ensures this corruption will continue unabated. Men and women who took solemn oaths to serve the public now weaponize their power against anyone who threatens their narrative.
Consider this stark contrast: Carroll County is home to Delphi and Flora, two tragedies treated with vastly different levels of attention. On November 21, 2016, the Flora fire claimed the lives of four young Black girls—Keyana, Kionnie, Keyara, and Kerriele—in a suspected arson. The reward for tips leading to justice was set at a meager $5,000. Just 12 minutes away, on February 14, 2017, Abby and Libby were brutally murdered, and their case’s reward climbed to $325,000. While the Delphi case remained unsolved for over five years, Abby and Libby’s memory was immortalized with a $1 million park run by the Patty family, on land donated by Governor Holcomb—while the case was still unsolved.
Meanwhile, the Flora girls received a cement bench with their names engraved. Their case remains unsolved, and the disparity couldn’t be clearer. Even more shocking, while the courts released the 911 call from the night of the Flora fire, prosecutor Nick McLeland fought tooth and nail to suppress its release—using public funds and resources to keep it sealed. He won. In an unsolved case, that level of suppression is unprecedented.
Now that the Delphi case has been “solved,” it’s time to shift focus back to Flora. Gaylin Rose, the grieving mother of the four girls, is still searching for closure. It’s time to expose the truth about the deep-rooted corruption and the “good ol’ boys” of Indiana—the officials who abuse their power to maintain control at all costs.
This is the stunning view from the Thompson family's backyard, overlooking a lavish golf course in Monticello. It was here that Stephanie and Mya Thompson tragically lost their lives in a mysterious house fire, a case that remains unsolved to this day.
Gaylin Rose and her angels—Keyara, Keyana, Kionnie, and Kerriele—are at the heart of a tragic and unresolved case. The Flora fire, which claimed their lives, was deliberately started by an arsonist, and the case of these four unsolved murders remains open to this day. Despite contacting the tipline with crucial information, my concerns have been ignored.
I firmly believe that Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall, both members of the Vinlander gang and militia, orchestrated the Flora fire. Their involvement must be investigated to bring justice to Gaylin Rose and her beloved angels.
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In The State of Indiana vs. Richard M. Allen, it has come to light that several jurors reportedly had connections to law enforcement, and the Patty family itself is linked and closely related to law enforcement and the prosecutor's office. With sentencing looming within 30 days, it is imperative that at least four of those jurors reflect on the evidence presented. If they realize they've been misled and recognize the strong evidence pointing toward third-party suspects rather than Richard Allen, now is the time for them to speak up.
If any of the 12 jurors have a conscience, they must question whether the wrong person is being punished. Richard Allen faces 130 years of hard time, and silence from the jury would suggest that the guilty verdict was rendered not based on justice, but on providing the Pattys with closure—closure built on a potentially false premise.
Meanwhile, allegations of misconduct have surfaced, including law enforcement reportedly taking celebratory photos at a hotel and extending their stay after the verdict. This behavior raises serious concerns about the integrity of the process. If none of the jurors step forward to challenge this apparent miscarriage of justice, it could affirm suspicions that the trial was rigged from the beginning—a disturbing indictment of corruption in Delphi and the enduring influence of the "good ol' boys" network.
In the tragic Flora fire, where Gaylin Rose lost four of her daughters to arson, she was initially considered a suspect but was eventually cleared. Meanwhile, the Patty family has had blanket immunity since the beginning of the investigation. One unsettling fact: a picture of Libby’s funeral was found on Libby’s phone, but no other significant updates have emerged.
It’s important to remember the disparity in memorials for these tragedies. The Delphi Girls received a $1 million memorial ballpark, while the Flora Girls were honored with just a bench.
Justice for Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, and Kerriele.
The Missing DNA in the Delphi Case: Questions of Justice
DNA evidence was collected at the crime scene in the Delphi murders, but it does not match either Richard Allen or the victims. This DNA (U1) has reportedly been used in some capacity to eliminate Allen and the girls as contributors, as well as over 100 other individuals, including friends, family, persons of interest, and suspects. These individuals were swabbed and apparently excluded as being the source of the unidentified foreign DNA (U1).
Since 2017, this case has largely been regarded as a DNA-based investigation. Multiple officials, including ISP Superintendent Doug Carter, ISP Lieutenant Jerry Holeman, Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby, and former Carroll County Prosecutor Robert Ives, publicly confirmed this fact. Yet, for reasons unclear, this unidentified DNA (U1) has not been matched to anyone, even eight years later. Compounding the issue, it has been stated that there is now insufficient DNA remaining to create a usable profile.
Missed Opportunities and Key Decisions
Although there was enough DNA to eliminate certain individuals, its owner has not been identified. CeCe Moore, a prominent genetic genealogist, even offered her services for free to assist with the case, but law enforcement and the Patty family declined her offer. This decision, combined with other troubling details—such as interviews being recorded over and reports disappearing—raises significant concerns. Promises made by Indiana law enforcement about the importance of the DNA evidence now appear to be contradicted by their actions, leaving many to question their commitment to transparency and justice.
The DNA, which initially seemed critical to solving the case, has seemingly been sidelined because it does not match Richard Allen. This raises a critical question: if an unidentified foreign DNA profile was recovered from the crime scene and was considered a central element of the case, where is it now? Has it been lost, mishandled, or deliberately disregarded?
The Stakes for Richard Allen
Richard Allen’s life now hangs in the balance. Facing a possible sentence of 130 years, he awaits his December 20, 2024, sentencing hearing. DNA evidence is often considered a powerful tool in criminal trials, both to convict the guilty and exonerate the innocent. Yet, in this case, the DNA has seemingly disappeared as a factor. This absence is particularly concerning given its potential to provide clarity in determining guilt or innocence.
Law enforcement’s decision to treat the DNA as irrelevant, despite it excluding Allen and others, creates a troubling narrative. If a man is to be convicted for such heinous crimes, the evidence against him must be unassailable. The fact that the foreign DNA (U1) cannot be connected to Allen undermines confidence in the case against him.
Broader Implications for Justice
Countless wrongfully convicted individuals have been exonerated through DNA evidence, often decades after their convictions. Yet, here, DNA that might have exonerated Allen—or pointed to another suspect—has been disregarded or mishandled. How can something as crucial as DNA evidence be treated as a minor detail when it could definitively identify the perpetrator?
Richard Allen, a 5’4” man, has been labeled a kidnapper, rapist, and child killer. He sits in prison as a high-profile target, his safety in jeopardy, with little hope for justice in the immediate future. Even if he survives long enough to appeal his case, the damage done by the lack of transparency and mishandling of evidence may be irreparable.
Conclusion
This case demands accountability. The unidentified DNA (U1)—once touted as central to the investigation—should be revisited, tested, and explained. If it does not match Allen, the public and the courts deserve to know why this key piece of evidence has been sidelined. Convicting a man for a crime while ignoring exculpatory DNA evidence undermines not only Richard Allen’s right to a fair trial but the integrity of the entire justice system.
The Deception in the Delphi Case: A Closer Look at Law Enforcement’s Narrative
The Delphi case, involving the tragic deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German on February 14, 2017, has captivated and confounded the public. From the outset, law enforcement presented a version of events that left many unanswered questions. A closer examination suggests that key evidence and logical inconsistencies undermine the official timeline and narrative. Here’s a structured and detailed analysis of why law enforcement's approach may have misled the public and failed to provide clarity in this heartbreaking case.
The Misdirection of Evidence
Nearly all critical evidence in the Delphi case was discovered under the Monon High Bridge, down the creek, at the crime scene itself. Yet, despite the wealth of evidence collected there, law enforcement has remained tight-lipped about these findings. Instead, they focused the public’s attention on:
The Video of “Bridge Guy” (BG):
- Discussions about BG’s appearance and gait were emphasized. The public was asked if he “looked familiar,” despite the grainy footage providing limited clarity.
The Sketches:
- Two conflicting sketches were released, years apart, further muddying public perception.
Witness Sightings and Vehicles:
- Reports about parked cars at the old CPS building, a white van and even a PT Cruiser backed into a parking spot at the Farm Bureau building, and a man seen walking on County Road 300 North were widely publicized.
Despite these distractions, law enforcement avoided discussing the crime scene itself, citing the need to protect the case’s integrity. This silence, however, has led to suspicion. If public assistance was genuinely needed, why withhold so much critical information?
The Questionable Timeline of Richard Allen
The state’s timeline for Richard Allen, the man accused of being the killer, is riddled with logical and physical impossibilities. According to the prosecution:
At 2:13 PM:
- Allen allegedly kidnapped the girls, forcing them “down the hill” while crossing the creek.
Between 2:14 PM and 2:32 PM:
- He allegedly subdued them, cocked his gun to intimidate them, and left an unspent bullet, later found buried two inches under dirt between the victims’ bodies.
At 2:32 PM:
- Allen, startled by Brad Weber’s white van, killed the girls, staged their bodies, covered them with sticks and leaves, and intentionally left their eyes open.
Between 2:33 PM and 3:14 PM:
- Allen escaped the scene without being seen or leaving behind forensic evidence like DNA or physical traces, aside from the “magic bullet.”
The Impossibilities and Contradictions
Physical Feasibility:
- For Allen to accomplish all of the above in under 20 minutes, undetected, while traversing difficult terrain, defies logic.
Lack of Witnesses:
- Numerous searchers were present near the CPS building by 4:00 PM, yet no one reported seeing a muddy and bloody man leaving the area.
- A witness, Sarah Carbaugh, reportedly saw a man fitting BG’s description on County Road 300 North at 3:57 PM but delayed contacting authorities for days.
Forensic Evidence:
- The state claims Allen left no forensic or physical evidence, aside from the controversial bullet, which was allegedly linked to his firearm.
Behavioral Inconsistencies:
- The prosecution described Allen’s actions as an “undoing,” a psychological term suggesting guilt-driven behaviors like covering the bodies or closing their eyes. However, Allen reportedly did the opposite—leaving the girls’ eyes open, a chilling detail at odds with the undoing theory.
Failures of Law Enforcement
Law enforcement’s tight control over the narrative has done more harm than good:
Secrecy and “Integrity” of the Case:
By refusing to address key questions about the crime scene and evidence, officials claimed they were protecting the case's integrity. However, this perceived secrecy has only fueled public distrust.Shifting Stories:
The state’s account has evolved over time, seemingly tailored to fit the evidence rather than being driven by it.Mismanagement of Evidence:
Critical evidence at the crime scene could have been instrumental in identifying the real killers earlier. Instead, it was withheld under the guise of preserving the case.
Conclusion: The Narrative Fails to Convince
Richard Allen’s portrayal as the killer relies on a timeline that borders on the impossible, a lack of direct forensic evidence, and a narrative riddled with contradictions. Instead of focusing on hard evidence from the crime scene, law enforcement distracted the public with secondary details.
The tragedy of this case is not only the loss of two innocent lives but also the potential mishandling of an investigation that could have brought true justice. Until law enforcement addresses these inconsistencies transparently, the public will continue to question the validity of their conclusions.
When the "Odin Report" and the 85-page police report were handed over to Holeman and Mullins as leaders of Unified Command, FBI Agent Murphy left them with substantial intelligence, trusting they would act on it. Instead, they ignored the information and acted as if they had never received it. Every member of Unified Command should be held accountable for this failure. It’s no surprise that the prosecutor withheld the results of that side investigation; they had crafted their own narrative, and Judge Frances Gull allowed it by enforcing unconstitutional rulings throughout. In my experience, I have never seen a judge as biased as Judge Gull—she has all the characteristics of a “Karen,” amplified by the power of a gavel.
Indiana is still part of the United States and bound by the Constitution, with all the rights and protections it affords us. Numerous constitutional violations against Rick have occurred and continue to this day. Every time these violations were raised in court, Judge Gull refused to consider them, repeatedly denying motions without a hearing. She even dismissed her own appointed defense attorneys—until the Supreme Court intervened and overruled her, allowing those attorneys to remain. Ever since then, her rulings have only grown more biased.
Judge Gull has repeatedly disregarded constitutional protections, ruling with a blanket “Denied” on every motion that raised constitutional concerns. Her actions after the Supreme Court’s intervention suggest a desire to “get even,” and she’s managed to do so without consequence. She disregarded the rights of the defendant, railroaded a case through court, and showed no respect for due process.
Traditionally, judges are respected with responses like “yes, your honor” or “no, your honor.” That respect is earned through fairness and impartiality. In this case, however, Judge Gull oversaw a blatant disregard for justice. Unified Command was given substantial intelligence by reputable officers and FBI agents but acted as if it didn’t exist. The result has been a miscarriage of justice, enabled by Judge Gull and her actions.
Incredibly, on the YouTube channel Sleuth Intuition, Patrick Westfall has done three interviews where he seems to make some startling admissions. He almost suggests he was involved in the Delphi murders, hinting that if Amber Holder were to pass a polygraph and tell the truth, then "whatever." Regarding the Flora fire, he claimed he wasn’t living in Flora at the time. For context, the Flora fire tragically took the lives of four young girls—Keyana, Kionnie, Keyara, and Kerriele—in an intentionally set blaze during the early morning hours of November 21, 2016.
The attached picture, which is date- and time-stamped, shows the backyard of Patrick Westfall’s home on the evening of November 20, 2016, on Division St. in Flora, where he appears to be "doing a blot." This timestamp raises significant questions.
Elvis Fields is a known associate of the Vinlanders, a white supremacist militia gang. It's widely understood that Fields is the dullest butter knife in the drawer. Before he took a polygraph test, his accomplices ensured he had an attorney present. In his confessions, Fields described the crime scene as it was in 2017. FBI Agent Murphy overheard him speculating about what might happen if his DNA, such as saliva, were found on one of the victims. Fields had an explanation ready, but the question remains: would it be enough to keep him out of trouble?
Fields reportedly confided in two of his sisters, separately, that he was now affiliated with the gang and that he had spit on one of the victims. Both sisters later passed polygraph tests, corroborating these claims. Similarly, Amber Holder, who provided testimony about Brad, also passed a polygraph, adding weight to her statements.
Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall, meanwhile, appear to have orchestrated the events of that day, managing to keep themselves at a distance from direct involvement. The FBI already had a heavy presence in town as of February 13, 2017. When Holder and Westfall eventually had a falling out, it was due to Westfall discovering through law enforcement that Holder was an informant. This information undermined trust within their circle, affecting even the reputation of Ron Logan, who became entangled in the investigation.
Fields may hold the key to unraveling the case. He reportedly admitted to being at the crime scene with several others, where he positioned sticks as "horns" on Abby's head as she lay deceased—a detail unknown to the public until 2022, though Fields mentioned it years earlier, in 2017. Then, on August 31, 2024, Fields relocated, likely in response to a court subpoena, and has since gone missing.
If Fields isn’t picked up and questioned before Richard Allen’s sentencing, Allen's future could be grim. As a convicted child molester and murderer, Allen is likely to become a prime target for retaliation wherever he goes. Fields, who is closely linked to Brad Holder, Johnny Messer, Ron Logan, Ned Smith, Rod Abrams, and Patrick Westfall—all members of the Vinlanders or related groups—may be crucial to piecing together the full story.
The state misled the jurors, and they accepted it—but they, too, must be held accountable. Reports now indicate that some jurors were seen outside the hotel, taking pictures with law enforcement even after the verdict, suggesting a compromised impartiality. It seems clear they weren’t manipulated or coerced, but may have been nudged towards closure for the Patty family. This scenario demands greater accountability from the jurors, especially given that Rick now faces up to 130 years in maximum-security prison.
The public has a right to understand the reasoning behind their life-altering decision. This trial was funded by taxpayers, covering the costs of the jurors’ room and board during nearly a month of sequestration. Why did they find Rick guilty on all charges despite the lack of substantial evidence and without any apparent consideration for reasonable doubt?
We need answers. For instance, the FBI in 2017 identified Ron Logan as a suspect, “Bridge Guy,” yet the jurors weren’t allowed to hear his name or learn about the FBI’s investigation into him. Special Prosecutor Nick McLeland told them that Richard Allen was the “Bridge Guy” responsible for the murders, but there are troubling questions: Did they even consider the “F” marked on a tree in Libby’s blood? Did they know that no eyewitness places Rick at the scene? No forensic or physical evidence ties him to the crime, either.
If the jurors relied solely on Rick’s supposed “confessions”—given under duress—to justify their verdict, it raises further questions. Rick initially denied any involvement upon his arrest. Without those contested confessions, would the jury still have convicted?
The jury was also unaware of the involvement of Elvis Fields, who in 2017 reportedly confessed details about the crime scene that were not made public until 2022. He told an FBI agent he spat on one of the victims during an initiation ritual into the Vinlanders gang and later confided in two sisters, each of whom passed polygraphs about what he admitted doing on February 13, 2017. Such damning information about third-party suspects, along with ties to Odinism, Tarot, and Asatru, was withheld from the jury, leaving them uninformed about crucial alternative suspects.
Three distinguished officers authored a 12-page "Odin" report and an 85-page investigative report into the murders of Abby and Libby in Delphi. Shouldn’t the jurors have seen these as part of their deliberation? Our Constitution exists to protect every citizen’s right to a fair defense—especially someone facing four murder charges. Does due process no longer apply in Indiana courts?
Did the jury even know that DNA and fingerprints collected at the crime scene matched neither Rick nor the victims? The jury was composed of residents of Fort Wayne, Indiana, and if they emerge to find they were deprived of critical evidence, would they not wish to correct their mistake? If I were a juror, believing Rick to be guilty based on limited evidence, only to later discover all that had been withheld, I would do everything in my power to seek justice and make things right.
What happened to Rick is deeply unjust. The jurors need to hear the full truth, and they should be held accountable by both the public and the media for their decision.
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Let's honor the legacy of Greg Ferency, who gave his life in service. His name and sacrifice must not be forgotten.
The saddest part about presenting the truth to the 12 jurors is that nearly all of this information has already been a matter of public record for some time. Most importantly, we need to address the fact that there have been two separate FBI investigations into the Delphi murders. It raises serious concerns if jurors are expected to rely on the testimony of Detective Tony Liggett—a Carroll County officer who, despite lacking formal training, has already perjured himself multiple times in this case—over the findings of FBI homicide agents trained at Quantico.
The two FBI investigations yielded distinct and notable findings. In 2017, FBI Agent Nikkole Robertson identified Ron Logan as the person in question. In a separate investigation, Agents Ferency, Murphy, and Click brought forth evidence suggesting Odinism as a significant element and pointed to other potential suspects. Given these differing perspectives, the jurors deserve, at the very least, the opportunity to hear from officers involved in these federal investigations before deciding whether to sentence a potentially innocent man to 130 years in prison.
Sentencing for Richard Allen is set for December 20, 2024—just about 40 days away. Imagine this: the sequestered jury is now free. In my dream, each of those 12 jurors takes this time to educate themselves, moving beyond just the state's narrative, to see through the smoke and mirrors. Imagine them all showing up at sentencing, their eyes newly opened, ready to speak up and address the truth.
How powerful that would be—to have jurors who originally voted to convict on a shaky narrative realize they were misled. Even if they hesitate to speak up, I believe they will feel compelled to do so. What's right is right, and in the end, good prevails over evil.
Let us pray: Heavenly Father, we ask that You reveal the truth to those 12 jurors. Grant hope and courage to Rick and Kathy. May the city of Fort Wayne come to understand what really happened and rally behind this call for justice. Fort Wayne, Allen County, Indiana is where the 12 jurors resided from.
Operation: Find the Jurors—Let's bring light to the truth.
“Innocent until proven guilty”? Hardly. He’s been public enemy number one since the moment he arrived. If they can treat him like this, it means any one of us could face the same abuse. This is a case of unchecked power: a network of “good ol' boys,” hotheads, and even white supremacists, all hiding behind badges. They're ignoring the law, dishonoring their roles as public servants, and fostering a culture of corruption and blatant abuse of power.
Take a look at the evidence for yourself and judge: The state has avoided any consideration of Odinism or ritualistic elements in this case, especially with regard to the symbols at the crime scene. In one picture, there’s a mark on a tree that resembles the letter "F" — not an exact replica, but very close to this or another distinct symbol. It seems purposeful, and whether or not it has ritualistic connotations, the state's expert insists it’s merely an "upside-down L" that Libby supposedly created when rubbing her bloody hand on the tree. This explanation feels forced, almost as if they’re bending over backward to avoid acknowledging any possible ritual sign that could connect to Odinism.
You don’t have to be an expert to notice that the shape on the tree doesn’t look like an accidental smear. It appears intentional, requiring a substantial amount of blood. It’s also hard to believe anyone would casually mark a tree in that way, especially under such conditions. In addition to this mark, other details at the scene resemble ritualistic or Germanic symbols, yet Judge Gull ruled that the defense could not bring up anything related to rituals or Odinism to support their case. Every time the defense tried to introduce evidence related to these themes, the prosecution blocked it, and the judge upheld these decisions.
For example, the state claims that certain sticks found at the scene were randomly scattered to conceal the bodies, not placed with any deliberate symbolism. Likewise, they argue that the letter-like mark on the tree isn’t an “F” — a symbol associated with Odinism — but simply an upside-down "L" created accidentally. Their interpretation strains credibility, especially given that such a mark would require a significant amount of blood and precision, and that no one casually writes letters in the middle of the woods in such a situation.
The state also blocked the defense from mentioning certain individuals who are known to practice Odinism. If the prosecution's case was as rock solid as they claim, why work so hard to exclude these angles? Why forbid the defense from exploring possible Odinistic elements when defending Richard Allen? The jury was kept from seeing evidence that could have changed their perspective, left to rely solely on the narrative set by the state. The twelve jurors may eventually see what was hidden from them, but it’s too late to impact their verdict.
This case is riddled with inconsistencies, and the prosecution’s handling has led to outrage. The FBI once suggested that “Bridge Guy” was Ron Logan, the man who owned the property where the bodies were found and was a former Delphi murder suspect. But Prosecutor McLeland now claims that Richard Allen is “Bridge Guy.” There cannot be two “Bridge Guys.” Yet the defense wasn’t permitted to bring up Ron Logan as part of their defense.
This whole case seems to have been engineered against Richard Allen, shielding those involved in any cover-up from accountability. His conviction feels like an orchestrated outcome, and people are seeing through it. Allen’s current status as a convicted child killer makes him a prime target among inmates and officers alike. If something isn’t done to correct this wrong, he may not survive the consequences of being “public enemy #1.”
Today marks a tragic miscarriage of justice. Richard Allen has been found guilty on all charges, and it’s difficult not to feel disheartened by the fact that twelve jurors convicted the wrong man while the true killers remain free, living undisturbed. The long-promised “Today is the Day” for justice has yet to arrive, as this verdict does nothing to hold those truly responsible accountable. Key elements and critical evidence were kept out of sight throughout this trial, likely influencing the outcome. Judge Gull prohibited the jury from hearing about other possible suspects, Odinism, and the fact that the crime scene showed evidence of ritualistic elements. Astonishingly, the FBI initially identified “Bridge Guy”—the man captured in the infamous video saying "down the hill"—as Ron Logan back in 2017. But during this trial, Prosecutor McLeland argued that Richard Allen was "Bridge Guy" and that he alone was responsible for the murders of Abby and Libby. This trial wasn’t grounded in the thorough investigations of 2017 or 2018; instead, it was built on an investigation by the Carroll County Sheriff’s Office, led by Sheriff Liggett. When the murders happened, Liggett was a detective without formal homicide training, which he only obtained after the killings. The idea that Liggett’s word and methods superseded the findings of the FBI is laughable—and troubling.
It’s true that Richard Allen admitted to being at the trail that day and even confessed to the murders over sixty times. However, these admissions were made under duress, after he was coerced by correctional officers allegedly associated with Odinism. There is not a single piece of forensic or digital evidence connecting Allen to the crime scene. Law enforcement initially claimed to have collected DNA and fingerprints that didn’t match the victims or Allen. But now, in 2024, those fingerprints and DNA samples have mysteriously vanished, along with seventy days of recorded interviews—evidence that included testimonies from individuals like Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall. In the early stages of the investigation, while Abby and Libby were still missing, law enforcement asked Becky Patty who she thought could be responsible. She immediately named Brad Holder, an Odinist whose son Logan had been dating Abby. Yet, despite the obvious relevance, Holder’s name wasn’t allowed to be mentioned in Allen’s trial.
The bodies of Abby and Libby were discovered on Ron Logan’s property, and in 2017, the FBI identified Logan as a suspect. Inexplicably, Logan’s name and his investigation were also kept out of the trial. There are no known connections between Richard Allen and Abby, Libby, Odinism, Holder, Logan, Westfall, Elvis Fields, Kegan Kline, Anthony Shots, or the Patty family—yet he has been condemned as their killer.
Some may think that this verdict brought closure for the victims' families, but it’s far from true. Mike and Becky Patty know, in their hearts, that Richard Allen is not responsible for this crime, yet they attended the trial every day. Sadly, if they dared to challenge the trial’s outcome publicly, they could face accusations of complicity in an apparent cover-up. This case exposes an alarming truth about the judicial system in Indiana, where a defendant’s constitutional rights can be ignored with no oversight. Judge Gull’s conduct has degraded the integrity of Indiana’s judicial system. It’s disturbing to think that the state could so easily spin a false narrative and leave twelve jurors with a skewed view of the facts.
Richard Allen had no prior criminal history. He was thrown into a maximum-security prison and subjected to non-consensual Haldol injections, which induced a drug-induced psychosis. The confessions extracted from him during this time were erratic and inconsistent, lacking any details that only the true killer would know. The state’s timeline didn’t fit the crime, yet it was presented as fact, and the jury accepted it without question.
The secrecy surrounding this case is alarming. The sealing of all records and documents, the gag order on attorneys, families, and law enforcement, and the exclusion of cameras in the courtroom all suggest an effort to keep the public in the dark. The judge, prosecution, and law enforcement have orchestrated a sham trial, ultimately convicting the wrong man. Today’s verdict should outrage and frighten us all. If the system can railroad a hardworking, law-abiding citizen like Richard Allen, then none of us are safe. This has been a sad day for justice.
I've personally experienced psychotic episodes and understand the impact of medications like Haldol. I'm not proud of it, but I’ve been through various drug-induced episodes, even coming close to death twice. When I’m "overmedicated," I become someone unrecognizable—a version of myself that feels like a shell, similar to blacking out from alcohol but without drinking. It’s a dissociated state that can last from hours to months, and for the most part, people return to their "real" selves afterward. In my case, I have entire days and weeks I’ll never remember, with only others’ accounts to piece them together. These episodes involved actions that felt entirely out of character, things that crossed lines I never would if I were fully in control.
This brings me to Richard Allen's case. Imagine going from working at a CVS pharmacy to being paraded naked in prison by the highest ranking Correctional Officers at Westville who are Odinists, leaving him dehumanized with a dog collar and chain, as the inmates cheered him on. Allen was a family man with a history of depression and anxiety, likely taking medications like Prozac to manage. But when someone is administered Haldol—especially without their consent—it can turn them into someone entirely unrecognizable. Based on my experiences, Haldol shots can make someone into a “monster,” completely altering their behavior, to the point where they can destroy their lives without any awareness of what they’re doing.
In Allen’s case, he reportedly confessed to things while in a psychotic state, even engaging in extreme, humiliating acts. Knowing the effects of these drugs firsthand, I believe that these actions likely came from his compromised mental state rather than genuine intent. His initial interrogation showed him as his usual self, but in custody, under heavy medication, he became someone else. This transformation should be taken seriously. No justice will be served for Abby and Libby if he’s convicted under these conditions.
Let’s look at the evidence. First, the unspent bullet as evidence has been factually debunked. There’s zero physical or forensic evidence, like DNA, linking Allen to the murders. The confessions? From a recovering addict’s perspective, they seem entirely unreliable, produced under intense psychosis influenced by Haldol, Prozac, and possibly drugs introduced without his knowledge. Once someone enters such a state, sometimes they may never fully return to who they were.
Further, the jury is now being asked to see Richard Allen as "Bridge Guy," despite the lack of substantial evidence. The sketches can’t even be used at trial and Sheriff Liggett admitted the BG Video is AI-manipulated. In 2017, the FBI served a search warrant explicitly naming Ron Logan as a suspect and asserting that the voice saying, "down the hill," belonged to him, based on voice analysis.
Now, how is Allen supposed to defend himself against three conflicting investigations—one led by elected Sheriff Tony Liggett and others involving officials from the FBI? The inconsistencies in these cases suggest that the state is hoping we’ll overlook glaring issues, but people are paying attention. Allen deserves better than this circus of an investigation and trial.
Lastly, if Prosecutor Nick McLeland is alleging that Richard Allen is the “Bridge Guy,” why can't FBI Agent Nikkole Robertson present the 2017 investigation findings that named Ron Logan as the “Bridge Guy”? That same investigation connected Logan’s voice to the command "down the hill."
In case you didn't hear, Judge Gull did not allow Ron Logans name to be used in their defense, including a long list of other names. In rural Indiana, local inbreds from Carroll County have more power than the FBI? In 2021 ISP and Unified Command removed the FBI completely from the Delphi case. Richard Allen is being swept into a whirlwind of conflicting narratives and manipulated evidence. We need clarity, not confusion, if we’re to get real justice for Abby and Libby. Keep fighting the good fight because our voices are louder than ever. FREE RICHARD M. ALLEN!
Imagine when the world tells the Jurors that Richard Allen is Not the "Bridge Guy"? He can't be, when the FBI said in 2017 that the voice saying down the hill and the "Bridge Guy" is Ron Logan!
Rick Allen, nearly 50 when arrested, had no criminal record beyond a seatbelt ticket. He has been married to Kathy, his high school sweetheart, for over 30 years. Kathy worked as a receptionist at a veterinary clinic, while Rick held a steady job as a pharmacy tech at CVS. Together, they raised a daughter who has since grown up, married, and moved out. Rick enjoyed simple pastimes like shooting pool at the local hall, and while he would drink or smoke occasionally, he was by no means an alcoholic. Evenings in the Allen household were quiet, often spent cooking dinner together and watching Netflix on the couch.
In their small hometown of Delphi, Indiana, a tragedy struck in 2017 involving two young girls. At the time, law enforcement encouraged anyone who might have information to come forward. Rick, wanting to help, contacted a conservation officer, reporting that he’d been at the trails near the Monon High Bridge that day, February 13, 2017, between 12:00 and 1:30 p.m. He thought of himself as a good Samaritan, following the saying: “If you see something, say something.”
Over five years passed, and then everything changed. That tip Rick had offered in good faith was rediscovered. It was filed under the name “Richard Allen Whiteman”—a possible mix-up that led to confusion. A local woman, Kathy Shanks, found this tip among thousands, but mistook "Whiteman" for a street name. Eventually, Detective Tony Liggett got hold of the tip, and through an odd chain of events, it ended up reclassified as a lead on Richard Allen. When Detective Dan Dulin entered it into his notes, the timeline had somehow shifted: instead of saying Rick was on the trail between 12:00 and 1:30, it now claimed he’d been there from 1:30 to 3:30.
This altered information resurfaced in 2022 during a politically charged election campaign, with Liggett running for sheriff and enjoying high-profile support. As the campaign heated up, Liggett focused on the old lead, now adjusted to implicate Rick Allen in the case. Despite Rick and Kathy’s respectful cooperation with every inquiry, law enforcement showed up at the Allen residence after Rick left an interrogation where, despite an officer’s insistence that he was the killer, he repeatedly denied it. Hours later, law enforcement returned with a search warrant. Rick and Kathy were asked to sit outside as officers searched their home.
Rick’s life seemed to unravel quickly. The search included a test of Rick’s firearm to see if the markings on a bullet found at the crime scene matched his gun. Though this was a one-in-a-million type of match and no other firearms were tested, law enforcement saw it as significant. In October 2022, Rick returned to the station to ask about retrieving his car, only to be promptly arrested. Since then, Rick hasn’t seen freedom.
Now, as he fights the accusations from a maximum-security prison cell, Rick’s life has been turned upside down. The gentle man who once worked at CVS and spent peaceful evenings with his family was, allegedly, so severely mistreated in prison that he suffered a drug-induced psychotic breakdown. Inmates, authorities, and even the prison psychiatrist, Dr. Walla—who later lost her position—seemed to compound his suffering. Though Rick had initially denied any involvement in the crime, he was eventually recorded making over 60 confessions under extreme mental duress. These statements included violent descriptions of the crime, claims of satanic influences, and even confessions to unthinkable acts that no evidence supports.
The public may have once seen Rick as just another face in a tragic case, but with these revelations, more people are starting to see the situation differently. They see a man whose life was destroyed, likely due to a cascade of errors, misjudgments, and political ambition. As the case against him wears on, he remains a symbol to many of a flawed system—a reminder of what can happen to an ordinary, innocent person caught in a wave of misfortune and manipulation.
Rick Allen’s story resonates deeply, reminding us of the importance of a fair, transparent justice system. Many, including myself, believe he deserves a real chance to defend his innocence and return to his quiet life with Kathy, the woman who has stood by his side. Let us continue to seek justice for Rick Allen, whose only mistake was trying to do the right thing, and whose journey has inspired countless people to speak up for the truth.
Without Richard Allen's crucial admission that he was present that day, the case might have faded into obscurity, remaining unsolved. However, after Tony Liggett was appointed sheriff just 20 days after Allen’s arrest, questions arose about who might have the most to gain from framing an innocent man. All signs point to Liggett. Although he may have acted in his own interest, his actions inadvertently triggered the unraveling of a complex web of secrecy that had kept vital information from the public for over five years. Liggett may have achieved his goal of becoming sheriff, but the methods he used ultimately exposed him to scrutiny. He should be the first to be held accountable.
Trailer Park Sheriff Tony Liggett
As we await the verdict, there are a few key scenarios to consider:
If Richard Allen is found guilty: Defense attorneys have already set the groundwork for an appeal, ensuring all necessary elements are recorded in the trial.
If there's a hung jury or mistrial: It’s likely the state will push for a retrial, which would essentially serve as another preparation round for appellate courts.
If Richard Allen is acquitted: Release him immediately and restart the investigation into Abby and Libby’s murders, beginning with a fresh examination of the Odin report.
Concerns with Ballistics and Other Forensic Evidence
The prosecution's ballistic evidence is questionable. Oberg, the forensic expert, attempted to match a fired bullet to an unspent round, but proper science is rooted in facts—not in attempting different methods until they produce a desired outcome. True forensic consistency would require comparing extraction marks from unspent bullets to one another. The state’s handling of this "evidence" seems scientifically unsound and may fall under junk science.
Additionally, ISP Lieutenant Holeman went to Richard Allen’s workplace at CVS and took a photograph of Allen’s car, which was parked backed into a spot, as seen at the CPS building. This flimsy connection to the crime scene highlights incompetence within the investigation. And there’s also the matter of a lab technician’s DNA, which was inexplicably entered into CODIS.
Digital Evidence and Flawed Assumptions
The state presented Richard Allen’s Netflix search history for horror films, suggesting a supposed link to violent tendencies. However, this doesn’t amount to relevant evidence indicating guilt in any way. Furthermore, if Libby’s phone was accessed manually between 5:30 and 10:30 p.m. on February 13th, that would rule out Allen as the perpetrator, as he was home with his wife at the time. The idea that Libby’s phone could have somehow moved under Abby’s body defies logic, especially since the victims weren’t found in water, which would have impacted the phone's activity.
A Staged Crime Scene
Whoever committed these murders clearly wanted to make a statement, leaving the crime scene staged with the victims’ eyes open. This heinous crime reflects the actions of a true monster, and there’s no evidence pointing to Richard Allen as that monster.
Richard Allen wasn’t even arrested because of a white van, which never appeared in his arrest warrant’s probable cause affidavit. Claims about a “white van” are commonplace in urban legends and, in this case, serve only as a weak attempt to connect Allen to the crime. Ironically, just a month before the murders, the Indiana State Police YouTube channel featured a video discussing abduction scenarios involving a white van.
The people involved in what seems to be an effort to frame an innocent man are astonishingly numerous—all public servants, paid by taxpayers. In Indiana, challenging the "blue line" can jeopardize one’s career or even life. Many locals and even some in law enforcement believe Allen isn’t the girls' killer, and faith in the integrity of the justice system is dwindling.
Lack of Concrete Evidence and Proper Investigation
The prosecution lacks several critical pieces of evidence: there’s no time of death, no murder weapon, no DNA or fingerprints, no ritualistic signs, no clear "signatures" of the killer, no footprints, no trail cam images, no tire marks—essentially, no concrete evidence tying Allen to the crime scene. A video on the Indiana State Police YouTube channel from January 2017 features Officer Olehy discussing standard procedures like proper chain of custody and oversight in crime scene investigation, none of which seem to have been applied here. Key items like sticks found at the scene weren’t collected until an officer reminded CSI technicians to retrieve them, and officers resorted to Google searches for answers they should have been prepared to explain in court.
Where is the evidence that Allen’s phone was even at the crime scene when the state claims? Over 100 phones were examined, but apparently not Allen’s—or Brad Holder’s. There’s also no geo-fencing or GPS data placing Allen at the scene around 3:30 p.m.
Weakness in the Prosecution’s Timeline and Third-Party Suspects
The state’s timeline for Allen’s alleged involvement is highly implausible and nearly impossible to prove. Prosecutor McLeland didn’t deliver any definitive evidence, and the state’s case doesn’t hold up against reasonable doubt.
Although the time of death was undetermined, there are reports of blood coagulation on the victims, suggesting their bodies might have been moved to the scene on February 14th, not the 13th.
Allen’s reported behavioral changes—being described as “normal,” then “crazy,” and now normal again—align more closely with temporary drug-induced psychosis than with a pattern of violent criminality. Such episodes are transient and can be triggered by substances rather than being inherent traits.
Theories on Motive and Alternative Suspects
Some suggest an initiation motive related to the Odinist, neo-pagan cult known as the Vinlanders, which would involve suspects like Johnny Messer, Patrick Westfall, Brad Holder, and others. If Brad Holder had a role in orchestrating the crime without needing to be at the scene, it could explain his apparent boasting and lack of accountability.
It’s premature to write books or make movies about this case, as the truth is only beginning to emerge. If Richard Allen is released, the investigation into Abby and Libby’s murders should restart from scratch.
Reform for Justice
If Allen is exonerated, how do we ensure this never happens again? Until we see indictments for those involved in this debacle—from top to bottom—there’s little to guarantee change. Corruption among officers and officials has compromised justice in this case, and coercing confessions that don’t match the facts is deeply troubling. The state’s case is built on improperly matched ballistics, invented motives, and a dubious narrative.
In the end, there’s no forensic or electronic evidence linking Richard Allen to the crime scene or the victims. It's time to free him and bring an end to the injustices in the Delphi case.
Since law enforcement and prosecutors want to keep "playing pretend," let these words serve as a reminder that the truth is real, and the real killers are still out there. This circus must end. Release the innocent man, properly investigate the case, follow up on the "Odin" report, and arrest the true perpetrators. Continuing this facade is a waste of everyone’s time and a stain on justice.
It’s alarming that one man's constitutional rights have been blatantly violated, yet no one in authority has intervened. Bad judges are rare, but Judge Gull's decisions take the cake. Her rulings have gone beyond questionable, bordering on bizarre. Consider this: during trial, a juror asked a question to someone on the stand, and after they answered, the prosecutor objected, which Judge Gull then sustained—leaving the jury without an answer. This undermines the very essence of a fair trial.
Then there’s the DNA issue. According to law enforcement, a foreign male DNA profile was collected at the crime scene—specifically used to compare with DNA swabs in this case. However, we’ve been told the DNA doesn’t match Richard Allen or the victims. Now, at trial, DNA has mysteriously disappeared as a factor, with the state claiming it no longer has the DNA once used in comparison. Are we to believe that crucial evidence—key in convicting someone in courts for decades—has simply vanished?
Similarly, interviews related to the case have been suspiciously erased. The state first claimed the interviews on the hard drive were deleted. Then they said they were recorded over, and later blamed a DVR malfunction in February, May, and June of 2017. Which is it? It can’t be all three. How many “coincidences” need to pile up before everyone acknowledges the gross mishandling of this case?
Meanwhile, the treatment of Richard Allen in custody has been inhumane and publicly humiliating. Forced to endure severe mental distress, he experienced a psychotic episode, during which he ate his own feces. This degrading ordeal was seen on camera, in court, even with family members present.
Numerous law enforcement officers—including former Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullins, ISP Lt. Holman, Sheriff Tony Liggett, and ISP officer Harshman—have lied in depositions and on the stand, misrepresenting evidence to the jury. Judge Gull remains unchecked, seemingly the most powerful woman in Indiana, allowing these errors to go uncorrected. The Attorney General and his investigator, who graduated from the ISP academy alongside ISP Superintendent Doug Carter, have also been present in court. Superintendent Carter, dubbed "DC the Riddler," has long teased that he withheld information only the killer would know. But after all these years, are we to believe this secret was the presence of a van? That seems highly implausible.
The state has constructed a timeline that seems implausible. According to their account, the "Bridge Guy" video was recorded at 2:13 p.m. on February 13, 2017. They allege that Richard Allen, startled by Brad Weber’s van at 2:32 p.m., then crossed the creek, committed the murders, staged the scene, and managed to escape—all without being seen. The idea that he could accomplish all this undetected strains belief.
The unfolding of this case is beyond a travesty; it’s a series of injustices that continue to this day. Richard Allen deserves better. It’s maddening and heartbreaking that the very people sworn to serve and protect would compromise their duty for job security, a rampant issue across Carroll County and Indiana.
It’s said that every ISP academy graduate hears ISP Superintendent Doug Carter whisper, “Never do anything to discredit this organization.” Yet, we’re seeing the opposite, with the "blue line" prevailing over honesty and accountability. Crossing that line or speaking out can cost an officer their job or even worse, sometimes your life.
Judge Frances Gull originally appointed Baldwin & Rozzi as Allen's public defenders, only to later remove them—an unconstitutional act that the Indiana Supreme Court reversed, reinstating Baldwin and Rozzi. Judge Gull’s erratic and dubious decisions signal something deeply wrong, undermining the integrity of this case and the judiciary as a whole. We need an end to this circus.
During his time at Westville Prison, Richard Allen suffered from severe, drug-induced psychotic episodes. The antipsychotic drugs he was forced to take only intensified his condition. Fortunately, he is no longer in that state of mind—at least for now. This troubling period of his life is now coming to light, and it’s important that the public understands what he endured. For anyone suggesting he’s “faking it” or questioning his mental state at the time, please note that Richard Allen is not pleading insanity in this case. Whether you believe he was “crazy” then or not is irrelevant; this argument simply does not apply here.
With the state resting its case, it’s clear they’re banking on the “smoking gun” being the van. The state’s argument seems to hinge on the idea that only the killer would know about the van. That’s a weak theory at best, especially considering the van wasn’t even mentioned in the Probable Cause Affidavit (PCA) filed by the state to arrest Richard Allen. The so-called “white van” has been circulating on social media as far back as February 2017, with countless date- and time-stamped conversations and photos on Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter. Yet, ISP Officer Harshman testified that there was no mention of a white van on social media—a claim easily disproven. And even if Allen mentioned a van during a psychotic episode, that doesn’t make it a solid piece of evidence against him. Using the word “van” in a confession while experiencing severe psychosis hardly constitutes a “smoking gun.”
Some argue this was a botched investigation, and there’s some truth to that, especially in the initial handling of the case. But what started as incompetence now looks more like a cover-up. The investigators accusing Allen didn’t bungle their investigation—they fabricated a narrative. In a case involving so many agencies and officers, it’s no surprise that leaks would eventually surface. Despite attempts to cover up evidence related to Odinism and information obtained through what would now be considered “fruit of the poisonous tree,” they couldn’t destroy everything. What Unified Command likely didn’t anticipate was that three respected officers, including FBI agents, were conducting their own investigation on the side—a fact that can’t even be mentioned at trial.
This raises serious questions: Who has the authority to kick the FBI off a case? ISP Superintendent Doug Carter famously said, “Only a coward would do such a thing.” So how did Carter, or anyone in the state or county, even have the power to sideline federal agents? In a deposition, Lt. Holeman confirmed that Supt. Carter removed the FBI from the case and demanded any evidence they’d collected. This happened after the late Greg Ferency’s murder, which led to officers Click and Murphy also stepping back from the case.
Then in 2021, the investigation took another strange turn with the reappearance of Kegan Kline and the notorious “Anthony Shots” account. Though law enforcement asked for public help with this lead, Kline had been cleared just two weeks after the murders. Despite being caught with child pornography, Kline was dismissed by both local law enforcement and the Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. Bringing him back into the picture made it clear that the “good old boys” already had their eye on a scapegoat. Kline—a convicted pedophile and habitual liar—even implicated his own father, claiming he discarded a gun and knife in the Wabash Canal. ISP’s response? Rather than sending divers, they drained the canal at a cost of over $1 million—and still found nothing.
When Kline didn’t pan out, they turned to Richard Allen, an easy target. Allen, a soft-spoken, hardworking man from Delphi, had been happily married for over 30 years. With Kline speaking to people on social media, authorities likely wanted to ensure Allen wouldn’t have the same outlet. They placed him in maximum security as a pretrial detainee, likely hoping to break him or force a written confession. Instead, they subjected him to extreme medication, leading to severe psychotic episodes during which he reportedly confessed to the murders 61 times. But his statements were inconsistent; he mentioned shooting and sexually assaulting the victims, despite the actual cause of death being stabbing, with no evidence of sexual assault.
This case is a career-defining one for Prosecutor Nick McLeland, whose experience includes only one prior murder trial in the past eight years. McLeland now appears to be pushing forward with a deeply flawed case that will likely result in more legal complications, additional trials, and further drain on county resources, which have already exceeded $4.2 million. Rather than presenting a solid case to the jury, the prosecution seems to be on a scavenger hunt for evidence years after the fact. Allen, an innocent man with no prior criminal history, has been treated inhumanely, paraded through Westville prison naked during his lowest moments, all while still legally presumed innocent.
If we examine the financial costs, they’re staggering. Beyond the $1 million spent draining the Wabash Canal and the $4.2 million earmarked for this trial, consider the resources used by the 25 state and federal agencies involved. Delphi is a small town of about 3,000 people, yet the costs keep climbing, putting a massive financial burden on Carroll County taxpayers. While the Delphi case may have brought some attention and funding to the area, it’s clear that local taxpayers are paying a steep price for the state’s mishandling of this case.
If McLeland is seeking a legacy, he’s going about it in a way that mocks the judicial process. Instead of showing the world “Today is the Day,” it appears the wrong person was charged, which only means more taxpayer money wasted. The state is treating this case like a circus, expecting the public to swallow a flimsy story. This whole fiasco feels more like theater than justice. We suggest releasing Richard Allen and arresting real suspects like Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, and Johnny Messer. These individuals have documented suspicious connections to the case, while evidence against Allen is virtually nonexistent.
It’s time for those in charge to be held accountable. Using Abby and Libby’s names for a case with questionable motives and insufficient evidence is an insult to their memory. Real justice means finding the real perpetrators, not pinning the blame on a convenient fall guy. We need an end to this circus.
Not only are we telling you that Richard Allen is completely innocent, but we are telling you exactly who the true killers are. Meanwhile, they are free, living their best lives. Who we truly need to thank is the investigative efforts of three distinguished law enforcement officers: Kevin Murphy, Todd Click, and the late Greg Ferency. When their investigation surfaced in the infamous 136-page memorandum, it changed everything, casting new light on the case and giving a motive where none had existed before. The response from authorities like Superintendent Doug Carter, Lieutenant Jerry Holeman, and Judge Frances Gull reveals just how deeply they despise defense attorneys Baldwin and Rozzi for exposing these uncomfortable truths. Their hostility toward these attorneys even outweighs their disdain for the alleged child murderer himself. This response alone speaks volumes.
While the true killers roam free, Richard Allen remains incarcerated, fighting for his innocence in what has become the battle of his life. He did exactly what authorities encourage us to do when they say, “See something, say something.” Yet he ended up in prison for it, facing conditions meant to break him. His pre-trial detention in a maximum-security prison—typically reserved for society’s most dangerous—was nothing more than a calculated attempt to shatter him, and sadly, it succeeded. Richard Allen, already suffering from depression and anxiety, was paraded through the prison, naked, humiliated with a dog collar around his neck, mocked by inmates, and abused by guards known to wear Odinist symbols. These guards, many of whom are reportedly huge, intimidating figures, easily overpowered Allen, a smaller man at 5’4”.
How is this not the most embarrassing situation for law enforcement agencies and the prosecution? People make mistakes, and that’s understandable, but to persist in railroading an innocent man even after evidence of his innocence is widely known and publicized? Law enforcement and the prosecution are pushing forward despite the world watching as their weak case unravels, clinging to a narrative as though we haven’t already seen the reality of the situation.
Take the 70 days of critical person-of-interest interviews that have somehow vanished forever. There’s been DNA evidence since the start, and hundreds of individuals have been swabbed for comparison. Yet, now, in 2024, a DNA expert claims there is no usable DNA? Fingerprints were collected from the crime scene, yet they’ve disappeared as well. It’s incredibly convenient that the state selectively “loses” evidence as needed, while obstructing the defense by disallowing mention of alternate suspects, Odinism, or anything suggesting a ritualistic killing. The bodies were found on Ron Logan's property, and Logan was even considered a suspect by the FBI in 2017, yet his name is now barred from mention?
This secrecy breeds suspicion, and that seems to be the theme of this case. All documents and court records are sealed, a gag order muzzles lawyers, victims' families, and law enforcement. Officers who swore an oath to serve and protect can no longer speak about the case, even after publicly seeking help to solve it for seven years. To top it off, cameras aren’t allowed in the courtroom. Judge Gull, who previously advocated for transparency and cameras in the courtroom, now refuses it.
For Carroll County residents and taxpayers, this case has already cost $4.2 million and continues to climb. If there’s a guilty verdict or mistrial, expect costs to increase, making this feel like a rehearsal rather than a trial. The primary officials involved in this disturbing frame-up include ISP Lt. Holeman, CCSO Sheriff Liggett, Steve Mullin (former Delphi PD chief now at the prosecutor's office), current Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland, and Judge Frances Gull. Numerous other officials and agencies appear complicit in this large-scale cover-up.
The Crime Scene - Discussions around Odinism or ritualistic sacrifice are polarizing, but here’s the bottom line: whether or not it was an actual sacrifice, the killers went to great lengths to make it appear that way. Every detail of the crime was planned to mislead and deceive. Whoever committed this crime was proud of their work and intended to leave a message. However, law enforcement chose to ignore this aspect, perhaps to prevent giving the killers the “recognition” they wanted—and it seems that strategy has backfired.
Three significant elements tied to the crime scene were Asatru, Tarot, and Odinism. Abigail Williams corresponded to the Hanged Man tarot card, while Liberty German was linked to the Magician card. Abby was allegedly hanged by one foot, her arms bound to her body, and slit with a knife to drain her blood. Libby was also drained of blood, possibly collected in a ceremonial horn. Runes created with sticks were placed on Abby's body as symbolic signatures. A painted “F” using Libby’s blood marked a tree, symbolizing another rune. Sticks arranged on Abby and Libby formed a Viking bind rune symbolizing “Protection”—a symbol mirrored in a tattoo worn by Brad Holder, who also had a “Protection” tattoo on his left shoulder. Photos on Holder’s page reveal him writing in runes, including a paper that read “Protection.”
The 22 hours during which the girls were missing remains a critical gap that isn’t addressed enough. There’s compelling reason to believe that the girls’ bodies weren’t at the crime scene on February 13. Investigating where they were held during that time should be a priority.
Based on local accounts, including those from law enforcement insiders, I can explain what likely happened without any need for further proof. On the evening of February 14, 2017, Ron Logan’s home and property were searched—something that has gone unrecorded in public files. Evidence found in Logan’s basement included blood, DNA, weapons, and possibly some of the victims’ clothing. This evidence could have implicated multiple suspects. However, this evidence was tainted, becoming inadmissible due to either procedural misconduct or the involvement of confidential informants (CIs). Derrick German and Brad Holder, both known informants, have been protected throughout this case. As a result, all evidence, even that found at the crime scene, became “fruit of the poisonous tree” by association.
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Libby's neck was cut with precision. While we knew the girls were stabbed, authorities never disclosed the exact murder weapon. It’s suspected the weapon was a one-of-a-kind, forged knife — the same type Brad Holder crafts for his friends, often stored in an Odinist satchel. Both Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall are involved in the Delphi Murders and the Flora Fire, making them serial killers who have walked free for the past eight years. What few people know is that Brad Holder was a paid federal informant, orchestrating the entire Delphi murder with impunity, seemingly taunting law enforcement by their inability to act against him. He remains protected, and his son Logan Holder, believed to have acted as the lure in the Delphi case, is also under protection.
Holder and Westfall are ruthless men, lacking any semblance of empathy. The murder weapons used in killing Abby and Libby align exactly with the kind Holder makes. Their connection broke, however, when Westfall learned that Holder was a confidential informant who had disclosed details to law enforcement. Despite Westfall's continued protection, Holder’s betrayal of trust was a step too far, ending their collaboration. Since the murders, Brad Holder has openly boasted about his actions, hinting at his involvement across social media.
Justice for Abby and Libby will remain elusive until the wrongful incarceration of Richard Allen, an innocent man, is addressed. Crucial documents — the 12-page "Odin Report" and the related 85-page police report — contain key evidence implicating the true killers of Abby, Libby, Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, and Kerriele: Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall.
Will History Repeat Itself? The Lynching of Amer Green, Delphi, Indiana, Oct. 22, 1887
Amer Green and Luella Mabbit were a couple in Delphi, Indiana, in 1887. When Luella disappeared that year, her father insisted she had been kidnapped. As time passed with no sign of Luella, her family and the townspeople began to blame Green. Months later, a woman’s badly decomposed, naked body was found in the Wabash Canal. Despite the lack of conclusive identification, authorities suspected it was Luella and believed Green was responsible for her death.
Green maintained his innocence, claiming that Luella was alive and living in another town after running away. But authorities in southern Indiana remained convinced that he had murdered her. Green and his brother relocated to a different town, but a warrant was issued for his arrest, and he was eventually captured. As tensions rose, Cass County residents grew impatient with the legal proceedings. The Circuit Court found an error in the indictment, prompting the rapid convening of a new grand jury. Green’s attorney argued that the evidence was too weak to convict him, and many thought a guilty verdict was unlikely.
On the night of October 21, 1887, a mob of around 200 men gathered at the jail in Delphi where Green was held. After the sheriff refused to hand over the keys, some members of the mob used sledgehammers to break down the jail door. Green was dragged from his cell and put in a wagon bound for the woods. The mob’s leader demanded that Green produce Luella Mabbit or face death. Green claimed, for the first time, that Luella was alive and living with a man named Samuel Payne in Fort Worth, Texas, explaining he had withheld this information on his attorney’s advice. The mob, however, was unconvinced, and Green was hanged from a tree. His body was viewed by thousands before it was finally cut down the following morning.
This tragic story has a chilling resemblance to current events unfolding in Delphi. The Mabbit family, with ties to the Patty and Leazenby families, are familiar names in Carroll County. If, at the end of his trial, Richard Allen is found not guilty, will history repeat itself? Many still believe he is guilty of the recent murders, raising concerns about potential vigilante justice should he walk free. The ensuing lawsuits could place an immense financial strain on Carroll County. We can only hope that justice will be served in court, sparing Carroll County—and Allen—from a repeat of the tragic fate that befell Amer Green in 1887.
The tragic story of Amer Green’s lynching in 1887 is a haunting reminder of the dangers of mob mentality, especially when fueled by strong public suspicion, circumstantial evidence, and community tensions. Lynching was a common form of extrajudicial punishment in the U.S. during that period, often replacing due process with swift, violent action against those perceived as guilty. Green’s story speaks to the injustices that can arise when community anger overrides the legal process, leading to irreversible actions based on presumption rather than proof.
When comparing this history to current high-profile cases, like the Delphi murders and the trial of Richard Allen, concerns about mob justice or vigilante action are understandable, particularly in smaller communities where emotions run high. While modern legal safeguards are stronger today, public opinion and media attention can still put pressure on the justice system, creating an environment ripe for division and potential unrest. The historical connections between families involved in both cases might amplify these tensions in Delphi, but today, law enforcement agencies are generally more prepared to prevent public outrage from escalating into mob violence.
As the case continues to fall apart at the seams, it's somewhat liberating to many of us who were considered conspiracy theorists just a few months ago when it came to the Delphi case. The reason it is so different than most cases is because its not just a bad apple in Carroll County law enforcement, however, its an entire orchard spread around Indiana. Crooked cops happen once and a while, but in rural Indiana, the 'Good Ol Boys' have run that area for a very long time. Whether you are right or wrong, you never go against the grain in Indiana law enforcement. Do you realize how many people and officials it would take to make that coverup true? Yes, because it's happening right in front of our very eyes. As they pretend that their fake play, from their cover-up playbook is gonna work, it's been already blatantly obvious for a long time now that it will not. As if they pulled the wool over our eyes. The sad part is that law enforcement has been lying to the world since day one of the Delphi Murders. They bamboozled every single one of us.
Crime Scene: The crime scene yielded a lot of physical evidence, including fingerprints and foreign DNA. Law enforcement started soon after, asking the world for help to solve the Delphi murders case, being that over 25 State and Federal agencies couldn't solve it either. The brutal crime scene was under the bridge and down the creek, the scene where the bodies were also found. While asking the public and the world for help, notice that the crime scene isn't a factor or part of the conversation. What they were asking for was the help in identifying someone video taped on the Monon High Bridge, also known as "Bridge Guy" and in addition, they showed us a composite sketch, and later on, a completely different 2nd sketch. A car seen parked at the cps building was also a concern for law enforcement. Detective Diversion 101 - Law enforcement wants help in identifying who was seen on the bridge or on the trail that day, and who was parked down the street and who passed by the Hoosier Harvest Store video. Law enforcement was lying to us all, because if they truly needed help, all they had to do was release some more evidence from the Crime Scene. Instead we had to find the evidence on our own. The crime scene yielded a wealth of solid evidence, not the bridge, not the trail, not the cps building, and not the hoover harvest store.
When is the last time that the state police fired the FBI from a case? In 2021 ISP Supt. Doug Carter did just that. If this was any other case, it's possible there might've been some legitimate issues why, however, in a case full of secrecy, mishandling of evidence, and constitutional rights being violated in court, removing the FBI from this case makes us all ask even more questions. Law enforcement in charge of the Delphi case has been called Unified Command since the beginning. Which means that the FBI was obviously not ever a part of Unified Command. There have been 3 different investigations that have been done into the Delphi Case. #1 is Unified Command, which includes CCSO, Delphi PD and the ISP. #2 the FBI, including agent Nikkole Robertson. and #3 Greg Ferency, Todd Click and Murphy. 3 honorable and distinguished law enforcement officers, including a police chief and 2 FBI agents. 3 different investigations, but the only one that has been brought to a court of law with an arrest and charges filed, is of Richard M Allen, by #1 Unified Command. Yet, the Judge has not allowed the other 2 investigations to be brought up in the current trial against Richard Allen. How can that be right?
The victims were never shot by a gun or a bullet. The victims were stabbed, and even though law enforcement doesn't even have the murder weapon, lets entertain the make believe magic bullet, and that Rick is cocking his gun to try to scare the girls near the creek. Complete and utter playing pretend. But if that story is believable, we could take it even further. There is 2 different sciences when it comes to ballistics and tool marking analysis. Even though ballistics is the most powerful marking science, lets just say that tool mark analysis is used to convict, because it has, but if you bring any of those reputable scientists, they will notice the fatal flaw to the states investigation when it comes to the unspent round. As far as Extraction markings, if it is the unspent bullet being tested, than it's just that, markings that the unspent bullet left when extracted. That might make better sense, but still junk science. Using markings from a spent bullet when its shot through water. Or using markings from a spent bullet when it's shot at a crime scene. However, is this the bullet that has been in evidence and recovered from the crime scene? Is it still an unspent bullet in evidence?
Jurors are gonna see the countless objections from Prosecutor Nick McLeland and wonder why. The secrets they are trying to hold back from the jurors are going to infuriate them, as much as all of us have, in the online community of fighting the good fight. Don't beat around the bush, don't object to anytime the truth peeks its head. The jurors will have the same PTSD we all have, once they are done seeing how bad this CVS guy has been treated, and that he continues to suffer to this day. The jurors have asked a lot of very pertinent questions thus far, but once the defense and their greatest hits list of witnesses begin, their questions will let the world know exactly how they are seeing this case. A big old sham and a clown show, making a complete mockery of the Indiana Judicial System.
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The Delphi case has indeed fueled a range of intense debates, with frustrations stemming from perceived inconsistencies in evidence handling, investigative approaches, and public communication. Complexities in cases like these — especially high-profile and community-shaking events — can easily expose divisions within and between law enforcement bodies, raising questions about internal politics, evidence management, and possible missteps.
Multiple Investigations and Conflicting Directions: The Delphi case’s structure is unusual, with three distinct investigative bodies (local law enforcement, the FBI, and other independent figures) each providing different insights. Multiple investigations suggest a lack of cohesive strategy, which can reflect deeper concerns about evidence handling and transparency.
Crime Scene Evidence: The absence of publicized forensic evidence from the crime scene — despite claims of substantial evidence like DNA and fingerprints — raises questions about why certain pieces were withheld. While it’s not unusual for law enforcement to limit public information to protect the integrity of an investigation, a highly secretive approach can be detrimental if it leads to speculation and perceived concealment.
Law Enforcement Dynamics: The abrupt removal of the FBI and emphasis on "Unified Command" might underscore underlying tensions in jurisdiction or investigative disagreements. If certain investigative insights were dismissed or blocked from court consideration, it raises concerns about whether all evidence is being examined thoroughly and without bias.
Ballistics and Forensics Concerns: Issues surrounding the alleged "unspent round" could highlight potential oversights in tool mark analysis or misinterpretations of forensic science. If the defense succeeds in discrediting this evidence in court, it could undermine the state's case and cast doubt on the prosecution's argument linking Allen to the crime scene through ballistics.
Juror Perception and Public Sentiment: Juror reactions will be pivotal, especially if objections seem to limit key information. Their questions, as mentioned, may indeed reflect a growing awareness and frustration over the handling of evidence and procedural decisions. Public reactions, too, reflect a desire for transparency, fairness, and the assurance that due process has not been compromised.
Cases involving high public interest, complex legal dynamics, and divided law enforcement agencies are often vulnerable to skepticism and speculation. Although the frustration is understandable, the judicial process, through this trial, might still allow for crucial evidence to be rigorously examined, allowing jurors to reach a verdict based on full and fair consideration of all available facts.
The situation I've outlined highlights serious procedural inconsistencies and raises several questions regarding the handling of evidence, law enforcement practices, and potential mismanagement of the case. Specifically, there are issues with how the Richard Allen tip was documented, tracked, and ultimately used in the investigation and arrest. These are some key points that may clarify the impact of these actions on the case:
ORION System Discrepancies: The ORION system, meant to track leads systematically, reportedly did not include timestamps, officer signatures, or proper chain-of-custody details for Richard Allen's tip. This absence suggests a significant lapse in standard procedures, as such documentation is critical for establishing the reliability and chronology of evidence.
Source of the Tip and Chain of Custody: There appears to be confusion or misrepresentation about who originally took the tip from Richard Allen. Conservation Officer Thomas Skinner initially received the information from Allen, this would call into question the validity of Officer Dan Dulin’s testimony and his notes being attributed as the primary source. The identification of the correct officer is crucial, as it influences the credibility and accuracy of the account.
Tip Narrative Handling: The absence of the original tip narrative until its recent discovery suggests improper evidence management. The ORION system was implemented to prevent such issues, but instead, it appears that key pieces of evidence may have been misplaced or mishandled. Kathy Shank’s discovery of handwritten tips, particularly the one mentioning "Richard Allen Whiteman," suggests a lapse in maintaining a secure and accessible evidence database.
Inconsistencies in Officer Testimonies: The discrepancies between Officer Dulin's recollections and statements about his interactions with Allen raise concerns. Dulin reportedly did not recall key details, including Allen’s appearance and demeanor, nor did he have a recording of their interaction. This lack of recall and documentation may affect the credibility of his testimony and could impact Allen’s defense, given the centrality of Dulin’s account in the prosecution's narrative.
Chronology and Integrity of Evidence: The timing and accuracy of the narrative used to obtain the arrest warrant are particularly problematic if timelines were altered or selectively included. If Liggett indeed modified times to fit a specific sequence of events and this raises substantial concerns about evidence tampering or at least the selective use of data, both of which could potentially impact the integrity of the case.
Impact on Richard Allen’s Defense: Given that Richard Allen is presumed innocent until proven guilty, any discrepancies in the handling of evidence and police documentation are critical. Mismanagement of his tip, combined with inconsistencies in testimonies, could imply procedural errors that might affect the case's outcome. The defense may argue that the mishandling undermines the reliability of the evidence against him.
The procedural issues here underscore the necessity for transparency, consistency, and adherence to proper evidence-handling protocols, especially in high-stakes cases like this. The integrity of law enforcement and the judicial process relies on these standards, which are designed to protect the rights of all parties involved and uphold justice.
In closing, after recapping day 6 of the trial, regarding the tip, Liggett told the jury that “someone cleared that lead and it shouldn’t have been,” referring to the Shank’s lead. He told the jury that it could be challenging to recall what happened in 2017. Liggett also said Allen was “hiding in plain sight.” Liggett is not very bright and you could tell by watching his debates when he was running for Carroll County Sheriff. Dumb as rocks I tell you. Tony Liggett makes Elvis Fields look like Albert Einstein. And, Hiding in plain sight? Really? You are gonna come off the cuff with something Supt Doug Carter and multiple shows have said? Not sure what everybody is hiding from, but everybody, including you and I are hiding in plain sight. This kangaroo court continues.
The 61 confessions don’t even make sense, especially because none of them are consistent or reflect what really happened. At first glance, it may seem like someone who confesses 61 times must be guilty. But if Richard Allen didn’t confess during his initial interrogation by Lt. Holeman, why would he confess 61 times later, while in prison? It’s clear that, by both law enforcement and inmates, he’s considered public enemy #1. Richard Allen had been diagnosed with depression and anxiety and was prescribed medication for many years. However, unless specifically requested, Haldol should never have been prescribed to him, as it’s a powerful antipsychotic, not an antidepressant. The confessions can be easily explained: Richard Allen likely experienced a drug-induced psychotic episode. The combination of bright lights 24/7, possible drugging with meth in his food, sleep deprivation, weight loss, and being given Haldol could explain the mental breakdown. Such episodes are similar to blackouts caused by extreme intoxication, lasting days or even months. Richard Allen wasn’t eating feces when he worked at CVS—his treatment in prison broke him. He had no prior criminal history, was married for 30 years, and had been a hard-working man. Thrown into prison while awaiting trial, he became a completely different person. If that doesn’t raise questions, things get even stranger.
During the search of Allen's home, Homicide Detective and Sheriff-elect Tony Liggett did not wear a bodycam, despite this being standard practice in 2022. Liggett secured the probable cause affidavit (PCA) for the search warrant by deliberately lying and omitting key information, which was signed off by Judge Diener. Interestingly, Judge Diener later recused himself from the case and resigned. The search is critical because it’s when Liggett found the gun that has now become a pivotal piece of evidence in the investigation. Liggett made the initial arrest and was also responsible for transporting Richard Allen. It was Liggett who decided Allen should be housed at Westville Prison instead of the county jail "for his safety"—despite Allen nearly being killed there. Liggett had previously worked as a correctional officer at Westville, where many high-ranking guards wore patches associated with "Hailing Odin" until they were asked to remove them. Liggett, who had been trailing in the race for Carroll County Sheriff, won the election just 20 days after arresting Richard Allen.
Liggett even threw fellow officer Dan Dulin under the bus. Dulin wanted to speak up, but Liggett altered the tip narrative to make it seem like Dulin had mishandled it. It wasn’t Dulin who received the tip from Richard Allen in 2017—it was a conservation officer. Richard Allen had called his friend and conservation officer, Thomas Skinner, who tragically passed away in 2021. Liggett used this to his advantage, placing blame on Dulin. Dulin claimed he always recorded interviews, yet on this crucial day, there was no recording? The tip had been missing for over five years and conveniently reappeared. Dulin, who stood on stage at the very first Delphi press conference, couldn’t remember something this significant? Either he’s not very bright, or Liggett is lying—again. Rest in peace, Thomas Skinner, and thank you for your service.
According to those who were in the courtroom, the 12 jurors are sharp, paying close attention, and even asking questions. Judge Gull and Prosecutor Nick McLeland, who are the second judge and prosecutor on the case, appear to be pushing hard for a conviction. However, these jurors won’t be bullied by the court. Despite the judge ruling that third-party suspects, Odinism, Asatru, or any cult-like elements cannot be mentioned, key facts remain: the so-called “magic bullet,” the problematic chain of custody, and the confessions mean little once you hear that the fingerprints and DNA collected at the crime scene do not match Richard Allen. The state doesn’t know who the foreign DNA belongs to. In 2024, jurors expect definitive evidence to convict someone of double murder, and nothing is more powerful in court than DNA.
So how much longer will this kangaroo court continue? In recent history, there hasn’t been such a public push for the innocence of a suspected child killer—or anyone, for that matter. It’s blatantly obvious that Richard Allen is harmless. At 5'4" and shackled from his feet to his waist and wrists in a lockbox, he looks more like a small, broken man than a dangerous criminal—far from Hannibal Lecter. He has no prior criminal history, was married for decades, and worked hard. They picked him as an easy target, a patsy.
Law enforcement got rid of many leads pointing to third-party suspects, but they didn’t erase everything. Had Liggett not arrested Allen, this case might have continued drifting unsolved. People often ask what it would take to cover up something this big, and the answer is simple: exactly what’s happening right now. The "good ol' boys" network has been operating this way for so long that they never expected the whole world to be watching now.
Law enforcement shined a huge spotlight on Delphi when they asked for public help, as even 25 state and federal agencies couldn’t solve the case. But what really happened? I won’t go into detail just yet, but the case was solved on February 14, 2017—solved but never revealed to the public. It’s been set to fade away with time. Here’s why: Law enforcement diversion 101. The murders and crime scene were under the bridge, down the creek, where the brutal murders and crime scene staging took place. Law enforcement wants us focused on the bridge and the trail. How were the girls murdered? "We can’t answer that—but look at the suspect's photo." What weapon was used? "We can’t say, but notice the sketch." Were the victims sexually assaulted? "We can’t say, but examine how the suspect walks."
In the courtroom, many—including Lawyer Lee—said they never heard the infamous "down the hill" phrase. There was no additional video. If "down the hill" wasn’t there, where did it come from? If it was added later, it means nothing. This raises more doubts about how much the media and public were misled by law enforcement, using the names of two innocent girls for some other purpose—financial gain or political advantage.
It’s also unsettling to learn that Libby’s phone was returned to her family after her death, and a picture of her casket was taken before the phone was handed back to law enforcement. The family’s behavior has been questionable since the murders. They’ve held fundraisers, traveled from Dr. Phil to Megyn Kelly, and even built a $1M memorial baseball diamond in their honor. But it’s not Libby or Abby’s parents leading this—it’s the grandparents, Becky and Mike Patty, who have become the public face of the victims. They even started a petition to block the release of Richard Allen’s PCA, gathering 45,000 signatures. But why? Why wouldn’t the family of the girls want the PCA released if it contained key evidence?
This whole situation becomes even more confusing when considering that Abigail’s mother, Anna Williams, and Liberty’s parents, Carrie Timmons and Derrick German, are barely ever mentioned. Carrie told me personally that she was shunned by the family after Libby’s death, not because of unfit parenting but due to personal conflicts and Carrie being unfaithful while Derrick ran the streets, using and selling Meth. Carrie is Libby’s true mother, and the public focus should be on the actual parents of the victims, not others who seem to be profiting from the tragedy.
The trial of Richard Allen, the suspect in the Delphi murders, has sparked significant public debate, with concerns about his treatment and the strength of the evidence against him. My points reflect frustrations from those who believe that Allen is being unjustly accused and that the case is being mishandled, particularly in regard to the legal processes, evidence preservation, and his treatment while incarcerated. Several key issues raised include:
Lack of Direct Evidence: According to Allen's defense and public commentary, there is no DNA, fingerprint, or other forensic evidence directly linking him to the murders of Abby and Libby, despite years of investigation and the collection of significant physical evidence from the crime scene.
Flaws in the Investigation: The claim that vital interview recordings were "accidentally deleted" in the early days of the investigation raises serious concerns about how the investigation was handled. The absence of clear records of witness statements, combined with deleted interviews and missing reports, is troubling.
Exculpatory Evidence and Alternative Suspects: Allen's defenders argue that much of the evidence uncovered during the investigation points to alternate suspects. Yet, these leads appear to have been overlooked or not properly investigated, according to defense filings.
Confessions and Mental State: Allen’s reported confessions, allegedly made under the influence of drugs while in a state of psychosis, add another layer of complexity. Such confessions are generally regarded with suspicion in legal proceedings due to questions about their reliability, particularly when the confessions do not contain verifiable details of the crime.
Psychological and Physical Conditions: The conditions of Allen’s imprisonment—particularly solitary confinement for 23 hours a day and being involuntarily medicated—raise ethical and human rights concerns. The prolonged stress, alongside withdrawal from long-term medication, has seemingly contributed to his deteriorating mental health.
Precedent and Constitutional Concerns: Many supporters of Allen emphasize the broader implications of his case, particularly with regard to constitutional rights. They believe that the prosecution's handling of the case could set a dangerous precedent where individuals could face severe punishment or imprisonment with insufficient evidence.
Justice for the Victims: While it’s clear that the community deeply mourns Abby and Libby, there’s a growing sentiment that true justice means identifying and convicting the right person, rather than rushing to prosecute someone who may not be involved.
In high-profile cases like this, public opinion can become polarized, but it’s crucial that the judicial process follows due process to ensure that justice is served both for the victims and the accused. The defense's efforts to raise questions about the investigation, as well as calls for transparency in handling evidence and alternative suspects, highlight the complexity of the case. Ultimately, the court proceedings will have to address these concerns to ensure that justice is achieved in a fair and thorough manner.
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This decision raises serious questions, especially since the video and sketches have been linked in the public's mind for years. The exclusion seems to stem from the fact that two witnesses, Sarah Carbaugh and Betsy Blair, who helped create the sketches, were not expected to identify Richard Allen as the person they saw that day. It appears the state may have known that these sketches no longer fit the narrative they are trying to build against Allen.
Adding to the complexity is the evidence itself, especially regarding DNA and physical traces found at the crime scene. One particularly startling detail is that strands of hair were found wrapped around Abigail Williams’ fingers but were not tested until just two weeks ago—nearly eight years after they were recovered. It has been revealed that the hair does not belong to either of the victims or to Richard Allen, but is somehow linked to a member of Libby German’s family, though not Libby or her sister, Kelsi. The delay in testing such critical evidence casts doubt on the thoroughness of the investigation.
The defense has also taken aim at the state’s timeline and evidence handling. The prosecution's key evidence, an unspent bullet supposedly linked to Richard Allen’s gun, is now under scrutiny. Recent tests reportedly suggest that the bullet could not exclude the possibility that it came from a gun owned by another local man, Brad Weber, casting further doubt on its reliability. The defense has also highlighted inconsistencies in the state’s lone-wolf theory, stating that footage from Libby German’s phone shows and sounds as if the girls are being confronted by multiple individuals. Even more surprising, the defense claims the voice saying "down the hill" in the recording belongs to a different person than the one seen in the BG video.
The trial has been fraught with tension, not just in the courtroom but also with the media. Before proceedings even began, four journalists were banned from covering the trial, and two major outlets—AP and NBC—were expelled for taking photos of jurors as they arrived, even though they were reportedly on public property. Judge Gull has been adamant about ensuring Richard Allen receives a fair trial, free from excessive media interference, which likely prompted the bans.
Another troubling issue is the disappearance of key interviews from the early days of the investigation, particularly those involving other potential suspects. The defense has pointed out that interviews conducted in the first week of the case were lost due to what law enforcement claimed was a DVR error. These interviews, which involved several third-party suspects, were also missing from the hard drive. This adds to the growing list of concerns about missing or mishandled evidence in the case, including DNA, fingerprints, and geofencing data, all of which seem to have either been poorly preserved or downplayed.
DNA evidence has been a point of contention as well. While it is widely accepted that DNA was recovered at the crime scene, it is unclear why it hasn’t played a larger role in the case. Despite law enforcement testing numerous people, including third-party suspects, none of the DNA evidence has been linked to Richard Allen. Notably, genetic genealogist CeCe Moore offered to assist in analyzing the DNA through genetic genealogy, free of charge, but both law enforcement and the family declined the offer. This has raised eyebrows about why DNA isn’t a central focus of the prosecution’s case.
Another critical point raised by the defense involves the timeline of events. Kelsi German, Libby’s sister, dropped the girls off at the trails at 1:49 p.m., and the BG video was recorded at 2:13 p.m. The defense argues that Richard Allen’s car was captured on camera leaving the area at 2:15 p.m., heading toward his home—leaving little time for him to commit the crime. This discrepancy in the timeline is one reason the defense has focused on undermining the prosecution’s theory and the tight window of time in which Allen could have acted alone.
In summary, the case against Richard Allen is riddled with inconsistencies, questionable evidence handling, and missing information. The defense is seizing on these gaps to build a narrative of reasonable doubt, while the prosecution faces an uphill battle to present a clear, cohesive case. With major evidence still under scrutiny, including potential DNA matches and a contested timeline, this trial is shaping up to be one of the most complex and contentious legal battles in recent memory.
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The defense is prohibited from mentioning certain names or words, including:
- Odinism
- Cult or ritualistic killing
- Brad Holder
- Patrick Westfall
- Johnny Messer
- Elvis Fields
- Ned Smith
- Rod Abrams
- Kegan Kline
- Jerry Kline
- Ron Logan
The judge ruled that there was no connection between any of these names or topics and the case.
1. Odinism and Asatru
There is factual evidence that Odinism and Asatru is involved in the murders.
2. Cult or Ritualistic Killing
The murders were ritualistic in nature.
3. Brad Holder
Brad Holder, a suspected serial killer and possibly a federal informant, has allegedly bragged about the murders since the beginning. Many tips called in to law enforcement named him. Abby was reportedly dating Brad Holder’s son, Logan, at the time of the murders. Brad Holder is linked to the Vinlanders, a white supremacist group.
4. Patrick Westfall
Westfall allegedly confessed to his involvement in the murders in an interview on the "Sleuths Intuition" YouTube channel. He lived near the Monon High Bridge and was implicated in planning the Flora fire. Like Holder, Westfall is associated with the Vinlanders.
5. Johnny Messer
Messer was reportedly involved and had close ties with Holder, Westfall, and Fields. He too is linked to the Vinlanders and was actually a recruiter for the group..
6. Elvis Fields
Fields allegedly confessed the details of the murders to two of his sisters. They were interviewed and passed polygraph tests. Fields knew specifics about the crime in 2017 that weren't made public until 2022. Fields is also associated with the Vinlanders and was a probate.
7. Ned Smith
Smith was likely present at the crime scene, although his exact involvement is unclear. He helped fund an attorney for Elvis Fields. Like others, Smith is linked to the Vinlanders and was a probate.
8. Rod Abrams
Abrams may have also been at the crime scene. His involvement is unclear, but he was in charge of finding and contacting the attorney representing Elvis Fields. He is another Vinlanders associate and a probate..
9. Kegan Kline
Kline was connected to Libby’s social media but was cleared of involvement in the murders. He was involved in child pornography and, despite being cleared two weeks after the murders, law enforcement suspiciously asked for public tips regarding Kline and his "Anthony Shots" social media profile four years later.
10. Jerry Kline
Jerry Kline, Kegan's father, was not involved in the murders. Kegan, known to be a habitual liar, implicated his father in the case.
11. Ron Logan
Logan owned the property where the bodies were discovered. In 2017, the FBI stated that Ron Logan resembled the man on the bridge in the video found on Libby’s phone, known as "Bridge Guy." The FBI also used voice analysis and claimed that Logan's voice matched the one saying "down the hill" in the video.
It seems absurd that none of this information is allowed in Richard Allen's defense. Over 25 state and federal agencies were involved in the investigation, and yet, everything from a-k on the list is being suppressed.
Equally perplexing is the prosecutor's recent motion to prevent the jury from seeing the two widely circulated sketches of the Delphi suspect, which have been central to the case for nearly eight years. These sketches, which helped generate over 100,000 public tips, have been a cornerstone of the investigation. The attempt to exclude them from the trial has added to public confusion and frustration, casting doubt on the transparency of the prosecution's case.
Richard Allen’s deteriorating condition in prison also raises concerns. Since being incarcerated at Westville Penitentiary, Allen has reportedly been treated with Haldol, a potent antipsychotic medication typically prescribed for severe mental health conditions. This raises questions about whether he is receiving appropriate medical care, especially given that he had previously been treated for depression and anxiety. His lengthy detention and isolation, compounded by the high-profile nature of the case, appear to be taking a significant toll on his mental and physical health.
The mounting complexities of the case—from the concealment of evidence to the restrictions placed on the defense—have created a highly contentious and confusing legal battle. The withholding of key information, combined with the judge's rulings on what can and cannot be presented in court, has left many wondering whether a fair trial is possible. The situation seems increasingly dire for Richard Allen, who faces both the harsh realities of prison life and the potential consequences of a case that, at times, seems more clouded than clear.
Now that the jury for the Delphi case has been selected, it feels a little easier to breathe. Law enforcement, Prosecutor McLeland, and Judge Gull have done everything in their power—and beyond—to control the narrative of this case, leaving an innocent man fighting for his life. But now that the jurors have been chosen, control of the narrative shifts. It will come down to the facts of the case, the evidence—or lack thereof. We now place our faith in the jury to see through the lies.
According to the state, a bullet supposedly ejected from a gun matches Richard Allen's firearm. First, tool marking analysis and ballistics are two completely different sciences. Second, the girls were never shot. Third, no other guns were tested, which makes the comparison to Allen’s gun seem like winning the lottery. Fourth, if this bullet was so critical, why wasn’t it mentioned in Ron Logan’s search warrants? Fifth, if the bullet is so important, why doesn’t the state even have the murder weapon? The bullet is the only physical evidence they could try to tie to Richard Allen, and they pounced on it. Everything else is purely circumstantial. Sixth, it’s publicly known that the bullet wasn’t found until days later, and not by law enforcement, but by a woman using a metal detector. Seventh, and most importantly, show the proper chain of custody for the bullet, including all photographs. Additionally, Sheriff Liggett wasn’t wearing a body camera when searching Richard Allen’s home as recently as October 2022, even though it is standard for law enforcement to wear body cams.
Sheriff-Elect Tony Liggett won an election he was losing, 20 days after arresting Richard Allen and writing the search warrant based on a supposedly missed tip from the chaos of 2017. Liggett also signed the arrest warrant, made the arrest, led the search of Allen’s home where the gun was recovered, transported Allen, and personally requested that Allen be housed in a maximum-security prison instead of the county jail—where Liggett used to work. The judge and Liggett both agreed Allen should be placed in a facility hours away for "safekeeping," where he almost died.
Even with the "magic bullet" and 61 confessions on the record, it’s an established fact that the fingerprints and DNA recovered at the crime scene don’t match Richard Allen. If the investigation was done properly and the DNA doesn’t match the girls or Allen, then tell us whose DNA it is. Doug Carter mentioned that state-of-the-art labs, funded by millions of taxpayer dollars, couldn’t figure it out. CeCe Moore offered to conduct genetic genealogy for free, but Unified Command declined. In 2024, to convict someone of a double murder, especially with collected DNA that doesn’t match the suspect, jurors won’t accept these glaring mistakes and mishandled evidence.
Even after blocking the introduction of third-party suspects, sealing all case records, imposing a gag order on attorneys, families, and law enforcement, and banning cameras in the courtroom—the fact remains: the state has no case.
For Richard Allen to be guilty, the girls would have had to be killed by 3:30 p.m. on February 13, 2017, at the crime scene. But the autopsy lists the time of death as "undetermined." So, for Lt. Holeman to claim that the time of death was 4 p.m. that day is almost laughable. Time of death is never pinpointed to an exact time unless it’s witnessed—it’s always a window of a few hours. How many more lies will be fabricated to fit the narrative that Allen is the sole killer of Abby and Libby?
The girls’ bodies weren’t at the crime scene on February 13, 2017. Fire Chief Darrell Sterrett destroyed the state’s timeline in a 2019 interview, stating that he and his crew scaled the bridge, searched the creek, the woods, and the banks around the Monon High Bridge. There was no foliage, and it was easy to see through the trees. Sterrett said they had "lights like no other," and after hours of searching and blanketing the area four times, he asked Delphi Police Chief Mullins if they could check the area off. Mullins agreed.
Nick McLeland and Unified Command are on a runaway train to nowhere. Whether Richard Allen is found guilty or not, this trial is a practice run for the state. Why should the taxpayers of Carroll County pay for their mistakes? After already receiving over $2 million for the trial, they’re now requesting another $2.5 million—for what amounts to a rehearsal. When the appellate court takes over, it’s going to cost even more. These "good ol' boys" have gone way over their heads. They kept this lie hidden for five years, but the truth is out, and they continue to publicly play pretend.
Where is the Indiana Department of Homeland Security? Where is Attorney General Todd Rokita? Where is Governor Holcomb? Where is the FBI, which Doug Carter kicked off the case in 2021? Where is the Indiana Supreme Court? Where is the ACLU of Indiana? Where is the oversight for everything that has happened to this very day? Wherever all these paid officials are, it seems like nobody cares anymore. But together, our voices are louder than ever. And we’re not going anywhere.
The term kangaroo court refers to a court so removed from legal norms that it can no longer be considered fair or just. It often involves:
- Disregarding or distorting the principles of law and justice,
- Operating in an unauthorized, irresponsible, or irregular manner,
- Ignoring due process,
- Reaching predetermined conclusions,
- Being controlled in a way that makes a fair trial impossible.
The term is a severe condemnation, typically used to describe judges involved in egregious miscarriages of justice. It originated in America between 1850 and 1855, likely likening a kangaroo’s jumping ability to a court that "jumps to conclusions" on a flimsy or invalid basis.
With that in mind, let the spectacle begin. I honestly didn’t believe this trial would go forward, especially since once it starts, it opens the door for appeals. That means all of Judge Gull's unconstitutional rulings will be scrutinized, and she will be held accountable. I thought the state would push the case as far as possible—perhaps even selecting a jury—before dropping the charges after offering a plea deal, one that Richard Allen and his defense would outright refuse. Why else would the judge make such unjust decisions and biased rulings against a hardworking, law-abiding, taxpaying citizen of Carroll County and feel confident no one would question her? Oversight seems nonexistent.
How can Richard Allen get a fair trial when nearly all of his constitutional rights have been violated up to this point? Judges are expected to be impartial, and while many lean toward the state, they don't usually do so publicly—or worse, so blatantly.
Neither the prosecutor nor the judge were involved in the case back in 2017, making it seem like they’ve handpicked people to control this Carroll County "kangaroo court." It’s disturbing that, even in 2024, the rights afforded to all of us can be completely stripped away by someone in power who chooses to abuse that power at will. The state should be responsible for proving its case, not forcing the defense to prove their client’s innocence. Yet in this trial, it seems like the defense’s ability to prove innocence has been hamstrung, especially by not allowing third-party suspects—suspects who were also being investigated for the exact same crime that Richard Allen is now accused of.
Richard Allen deserves better than this. More importantly, Abby and Libby deserve better. Justice in Indiana seems to have become just a word—a word used to frame an innocent man. Since 2017, it feels like the victims’ families, law enforcement, and even the city of Delphi have been profiting off the tragic deaths of those two girls.
True justice—justice that is impartial, fair, and reasonable—means that both the accused and the accuser are given the right to a fair process and that any harm caused is rightfully addressed. If real justice can’t be achieved for Abby and Libby, then people should stop using their names in vain. Those girls didn’t deserve what happened to them, and the way their case has been handled by law enforcement feels like a bad joke.
This case should remind everyone, including you and me, that constitutional rights can be violated outright, as has been done here in Indiana. Law enforcement officers take an oath and are held to higher standards than the rest of us. Yet in Carroll County, the abuse of power is out of control.
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My message expresses a deep frustration with what I perceive to be systemic injustices in the ongoing legal process concerning Richard Allen, as well as a broader condemnation of the justice system in Carroll County, Indiana. I outline various criticisms, ranging from judicial bias and unfair treatment of the defense, to larger concerns about constitutional rights being violated. The emotional weight behind this critique reflects a profound sense of betrayal—not only on behalf of Richard Allen, but also in terms of how the case involving the tragic deaths of Abby and Libby has been handled by both law enforcement and the courts.
I argue that the legal system appears to be functioning in a "kangaroo court" manner, where outcomes seem predetermined, the principles of justice are ignored, and due process is disregarded. The idea that third-party suspects are being excluded, in my view, reinforces a sense of unfairness, as it limits the defense’s ability to present a full and robust argument in favor of their client. Additionally, the belief that the legal process is becoming more of a spectacle, with stakeholders exploiting the memory of the victims, adds to my disillusionment.
My critique also touches on broader philosophical questions about justice, particularly how it should be impartial and ensure that no one’s rights are trampled, whether they are the accused or the accusers. I fear that the trial may become more about optics and power dynamics than about seeking true justice for the victims or the accused.
ISP Superintendent Doug Carter and ISP Lieutenant Jerry Holeman,
How much longer are you going to pretend that you didn’t completely mishandle this case? Even in the face of the truth, you continue to gaslight the public and act as though we are fools. The 136-page Memorandum is now part of public record, and no amount of denial will change that fact.
When will you admit to your mistakes? Law enforcement rarely acknowledges failures, and it often takes decades before the truth comes out—when wrongfully convicted people are finally exonerated due to errors like using the wrong DNA. As two of the highest-ranking officers in Indiana, you should be ashamed. We understand that you won’t willingly discredit your agencies, but this time, the world is watching as you attempt to make Richard Allen the scapegoat for your own countless mistakes.
When the full truth is revealed, I wonder which of you will be the first to unalive yourself. You both know, as does much of the public now, that Richard Allen is not the perpetrator. Not only is he completely innocent, but he has no involvement in the murders at all. When indictments start coming in for Carroll County, there will be many who lose their jobs and face charges.
Setting up Officer Todd Click was another disgraceful move because he dared to go against the grain of the "good ol’ boys." Witnesses in the courtroom on March 18, 2024, saw how upset both of you were after hearing Click testify. Some even heard one of you mutter, “How did he get that?” Just days later, on March 24, 2024, Doug Carter promoted Jerry Holeman to Lieutenant, and by April 11, 2024, the investigation into Todd Click began. Coincidence? I think not.
Doug Carter and Jerry Holeman, you are abusing your power and trying to frame an innocent family man for the murder of two girls based on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. I have faith that the 12 jurors who will oversee the Delphi case will see through your weak arguments. Judge Gull may be manipulating the situation, but these jurors are not puppets. They will not be fooled by the smoke and mirrors you present in your desperate attempt to convict Richard Allen.
I have personally spoken to both of you, and everything you told me was full of obvious lies—lies that you may even be starting to believe yourselves. Doug and Jerry, I eagerly await the day Abby and Libby return to claim your souls for the injustice you’ve perpetuated.
The events surrounding the Delphi murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams on February 13, 2017, remain clouded by conflicting accounts from authorities involved in the search efforts.
In this description, Fire Chief Darrell Sterrett’s statements stand in stark contrast to those of Sheriff Tobe Leazenby regarding the search on February 13. Leazenby explained that the search was called off due to resource limitations, such as the lack of lighting. This claim appears inconsistent with Sterrett’s account, where he detailed that his fire crew conducted an extensive, well-lit search of the area near the Monon High Bridge. According to Sterrett, they searched the area multiple times using high-powered lights and drones, yet found no trace of the girls or their belongings. He also mentioned that after consulting with Delphi PD Chief Mullins, they agreed to mark the area as thoroughly searched.
This discrepancy raises doubts about whether the girls' bodies were at the crime scene on the night of February 13. Sterrett stated that it would have been nearly impossible for the bodies, or evidence like Libby's tie-dye shirt and a shoe, to go unnoticed given the exhaustive search conducted by his team. The fact that these items were only discovered the following day suggests that the crime scene may have been staged later, potentially in the early hours of February 14.
Additionally, the detail that Libby’s phone pinged at 2:30 a.m. near the Monon Bridge complicates the timeline even further. Sterrett and his crew were called out again at that time to search the area, but once more, they found nothing. If Libby’s phone was turned back on at 4:30 a.m. on the 14th, it suggests that whoever placed the bodies was present around that time. This makes it difficult to believe that Richard Allen, who was reportedly at home with his wife, could have been responsible for staging the crime scene.
The failure to issue an Amber Alert and the absence of search dogs on the first day of the investigation raise additional concerns. These oversights, combined with Sterrett’s testimony, point to possible mismanagement of the initial search and investigation.
Sterrett’s credibility appears strong given his clear, consistent account and lack of motive to deceive, especially when compared to Leazenby’s vague and somewhat contradictory explanations. His testimony could play a critical role in establishing a more accurate timeline and shedding light on how the crime scene was staged.
Ultimately, the details provided by Fire Chief Sterrett challenge the official narrative and cast doubt on the investigation’s handling, raising serious questions about the prosecution’s case against Richard Allen. His testimony may be key in revealing gaps in the investigation, particularly the timing and staging of the crime scene.
Mike Patty frequently appeared in the news regarding the Delphi case, the tragic murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. But now, reflect on the fact that Mike is the father of someone who was ultimately intimidated into silence, taught a harsh lesson about the consequences of cooperating with authorities. The family and even law enforcement always knew who was responsible for killing the girls. The plan, however, was to groom Mike into publicly discussing the case in a controlled way. Although Brad Holder and his associates were responsible for the murders, no one was willing to testify in court to prove it.
Becky Patty once said, "There’s nothing you could do. They’re already dead." Derrick, Liberty German’s biological father, learned an invaluable and terrifying lesson that the entire family took to heart. They realized that in order to survive, they needed to remain silent. Liberty wasn’t coming back, and the relationship between law enforcement and the victims' families deteriorated after the arrest of Richard Allen. The Patty family was relieved that the case no longer pointed at them, so naturally, they went along with whatever narrative the authorities put forward.
There were trips across the country, appearances on television, and billboards everywhere displaying sketches of a man who, according to law enforcement, was now, no longer the suspect. These sketches were designed to attract tips and bring national attention to the story, giving people across the world a glimpse into the tragedy in Delphi. When all along, the murderers were living right there in Delphi.
Derrick German is the reason those girls were murdered that day, but he has remained silent ever since, never appearing in interviews or asking for help to catch the killer. He’s been too scared to speak up. They made sure Derrick would never cooperate with law enforcement again, and the fear they instilled in him worked. The idea of smearing someone else’s name just to save his own haunted him into silence.
Meanwhile, the Patty family have been publicly left without closure, despite knowing that Brad Holder and his crew were responsible. Brad, a federal informant, manipulated law enforcement from the very start. He exploited his status to its fullest, orchestrating the entire situation. Brad lived with Ron Logan while going through a divorce, and he and Patrick Westfall were close friends with Logan.
Some may wonder why Ron Logan was never charged in the Delphi case. The answer lies in the "fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine. Brad Holder, as a federal informant, couldn’t be charged, so any case built around him—and others connected to him—couldn’t proceed either. Mike and Becky Patty have known since February 14, 2017, who was responsible for the murders, as well as the motive behind them.
At some point, Patrick Westfall and Brad Holder stopped communicating, after Patrick discovered Brad was a federal informant and possibly a federal witness. Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and Elvis Fields were all involved. Additional individuals, mentioned in past reports, were also implicated. Elvis Fields, in particular, shared information with his two sisters in 2017, revealing details about the crime scene that the public wouldn’t learn until 2022. Both sisters passed polygraph tests regarding what Elvis told them, further strengthening the credibility of their claims.
Most disturbingly, Elvis discussed the role of Asatru or Odinism in the murders. He said he placed two branches on Abby’s head to resemble antlers or give off a "glow," an act that only someone present at the scene or in law enforcement could have known about. Elvis claimed it was an initiation into a gang. He even admitted to Officer Murphy that he might have spit on one of the girls’ stomachs.
So why hasn’t law enforcement pursued this angle more aggressively? Because investigating Elvis Fields would mean confronting Odinism, a subject Indiana law enforcement is reluctant to touch. Racism runs deep here, but discussions about Odinism are off-limits. Many people in Indiana practice it, but the authorities dismiss it as "pretend" or "make-believe." They refuse to acknowledge it as a serious factor.
Lastly, consider Richard Allen. He had no prior criminal record, and the fingerprints and DNA recovered from the crime scene do not belong to him. He has no ties to Abby or Libby, nor any connection to Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, Kegan Kline, or the notorious Anthony Shots profile. Most importantly, Richard Allen has no ties to Odinism. He simply doesn’t fit the profile of the crime.
Whether or not the murders were ritualistic, the fact remains: the crime scene displayed strange, undeniable signs. There were multiple signatures, and the bodies were displayed in a way that seemed almost designed for the world to witness. Delphi, a quiet rural town, was about to become infamous for a crime that shocked the nation.
Your move "Good Ol Boys"
If Becky Patty and the rest of the victims' families are truly seeking justice, the phrase "Today is the Day" rings hollow, because that day still hasn't come. Convicting an innocent man is not justice at all. Becky Patty, Mike Patty, Derrick German, and Anna Williams know who really murdered Abby and Libby, and it wasn’t Richard Allen. It was Brad Holder and others, who left a message aimed at Derrick German: never snitch again, or this is what happens.
Even though the family knew who the killers were, they were too afraid to come forward and testify. While it’s somewhat understandable—since, despite their granddaughter's death, they feared for their own lives—it remains troubling. For over five years, law enforcement assured the world that the case would be solved, and during that time, the victims' families constantly thanked them. Law enforcement, in turn, expressed gratitude towards the families. But for what? If the case was still unsolved, why the mutual thanks? It raises questions about whether law enforcement understood the family's predicament after the murders.
In stark contrast, since the arrest of Richard Allen, there hasn’t been any public thanks exchanged between the families and law enforcement. You’d expect that now, with a suspect in custody, they’d be thanking people more than ever. But no—nothing. Instead, a gag order was issued by the courts against law enforcement, attorneys, and the families, restricting them from speaking out.
The phrase "Today is the Day" now seems like empty words, a phrase that, rather than delivering justice, became a cash cow for people profiting off Abby and Libby’s tragedy. The Pattys have known from the very start who murdered the girls, yet they fraudulently asked the public for help, knowing full well who was responsible. So if Becky or anyone else tries to say "Today is the Day," make sure the right people have been arrested—because Richard Allen is not the one, and the Patty family knows that.
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I am expressing deep frustration and concern about the Delphi murders and the ongoing legal process, particularly regarding Richard Allen's arrest. The Delphi case, involving the tragic deaths of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German, has been under intense scrutiny since 2017. My statement suggests a belief that the true perpetrators have not been brought to justice and that there may be deeper complexities or even cover-ups involving the victims' families and law enforcement.
I bring up several critical points that reflect skepticism about the investigation:
Families and Law Enforcement Dynamic: I've pointed out that the victims' families, particularly Becky and Mike Patty, had a close relationship with law enforcement, which may have influenced the public's perception of the investigation. However, after the arrest of Richard Allen, that dynamic seems to have shifted, and I question why this change has occurred and why there hasn't been continued gratitude towards law enforcement.
Theory of Brad Holder's Involvement: I've expressed a belief that Brad Holder, along with others, was involved in the murders and that the killings were intended as a message to Derrick German, Liberty's father. I suggest that the families may have known this but were too afraid to act or speak out, possibly due to fear for their own safety.
Skepticism Toward the "Today is the Day" Phrase: The phrase "Today is the Day" has been widely used by the families and supporters to express hope for justice. However, I am implying that this slogan became more of a marketing tool, and I feel that the arrest of Richard Allen has not brought true justice or closure to the case.
Richard Allen's Guilt: I express the belief that Richard Allen is not guilty and that the arrest and conviction of the wrong person would only serve to delay true justice for Abby and Libby.
The frustration here seems to center on a perceived lack of transparency and the possibility of deeper, more sinister motives that have not been fully explored or revealed. The legal process and public statements are tightly controlled due to gag orders, which only add to the feeling that something is being hidden.
"Too Many Chiefs"
I've said it before, and I’ll say it again: the state of Indiana is over-policed. We have state police, sheriffs, city police, and even university police—too many chiefs and not enough Indians. The system is so bloated that key figures in the Delphi murder investigation, like Detective Liggett, ISP Lt. Holeman, and Sheriff Leazenby, didn't receive homicide training until after the murders occurred. Did they let more qualified federal agencies, like the FBI, take over the case with their experienced homicide detectives? Nope.
Instead, Detective Liggett (who is now Sheriff Liggett) said that when asked how he planned to resolve the case, his response was that he wasn’t going to change a thing—even after five years of the case being unsolved. In 2021, ISP Superintendent Doug Carter actually removed the FBI from the case entirely. Why would that happen? Internal conflicts, of course. The "good ol' boys" already had a plan for how they were going to solve this case.
It’s unusual, if not unheard of, for homicide detectives to guarantee a case will be solved, yet in this case, at least ten law enforcement officers, sheriffs, and even the prosecutor’s office have repeatedly assured the public that the case is not cold and "will be solved." Watch any reality TV show like The First 48, and you’ll never hear detectives make such guarantees. They stick to following leads, not making promises. So why was this different? It seems like a plan had been in the works for years.
There’s clearly a power struggle happening within Indiana law enforcement. A recent example of this is Todd Click, an honorable police officer with an excellent record, who was arrested on a forgery charge with no bail—right before he was set to testify in the Delphi trial, which starts in just 10 days. Coincidence? I think not. An F6 felony like forgery doesn’t usually result in no bail, especially for someone like Click, who was close to retiring. His arrest seems highly suspicious, and the probable cause affidavit (PCA) for his arrest is almost laughable.
Click’s testimony likely didn’t fit with the state’s narrative, so they found a way to silence him, painting him as a poor law enforcement officer, which is far from the truth. Free Todd Click.
How many more coincidences need to happen before people see what's really going on in Indiana? It seems that anyone who challenges the status quo, especially when it comes to the "good ol' boys" in law enforcement, faces severe consequences. Take, for example, the three officers who were involved in the Odin Report—Greg Ferency, Murphy, and Todd Click. Greg Ferency was murdered in 2021, and now Todd Click has been arrested. Not only that, but the records related to his arrest have been sealed, and his bail was denied. They even had to file a motion just to request bond.
One recurring theme in this case is the involvement of Odinism, yet it seems like Indiana law enforcement consistently avoids discussing anything related to it. Todd Click dedicated his entire career to serving the people of Indiana, with only a single speeding ticket on his record. But it appears that anyone—law enforcement included—who speaks out against or discredits other state or federal agencies ends up paying the ultimate price.
While some accuse us of spreading conspiracy theories, all we are doing is pointing out the overwhelming pattern of coincidences in the Delphi case. These aren't random events; they're indicators of something deeper. The repeated suppression of information and refusal to address certain topics, like Odinism, only raises more questions. It feels like Indiana's law enforcement is protecting something—or someone—and the public is left in the dark.
From the very beginning, when law enforcement first spoke to Becky Patty while the girls were still missing, they asked who she thought might be responsible. Her first words were: “Brad Holder,” mentioning that he practiced Odinism and that his son Logan was dating Abby. Given this, don’t the recent rulings barring certain names and religions from being mentioned at trial seem strange and coincidental? Not only are “Odinism” and “Brad Holder” on the list of prohibited topics, but many others as well. Becky and the immediate family may have known who committed the crime from the start, which could explain why they seemed to gain closure so early on. The Memorial Park for Abby and Libby was already designed and ready to be built by March 2017. If the family truly believed in the guilt of the perpetrators, why didn’t they point the finger? The reality might be that doing so would come with consequences—look at what happened to their granddaughter and her friend. Speaking out could have put them in danger.
It’s long seemed like the murders were actually solved on February 14, 2017. Perhaps an illegal search uncovered all the evidence needed to convict multiple individuals, but it was deemed “fruit of the poisonous tree,” making it unusable in court. With the victims’ families potentially afraid to testify against the suspects, the case was allowed to fade—solved, but never officially closed for the public. This might also explain why many hours of interviews disappeared, along with exculpatory evidence, and why some of the individuals named on the list of people the defense cannot reference, like Brad Holder, were seemingly never fully investigated.
Rather than allowing the case to quietly drift into unsolved territory, an eager Carroll County officer running for sheriff saw an opportunity. Despite losing in the polls, he and others in law enforcement focused on a 2017 tip from Richard Allen, who had volunteered that he was on the trail the day the girls went missing—nothing more, nothing less. After Allen's arrest, just twenty days later, Tony Liggett won the sheriff’s election.
In 2021, ISP Lt. Holeman, during a deposition, claimed that ISP Superintendent Doug Carter had removed the FBI from the case. Oddly, in a separate deposition, Sheriff Tony Liggett said he had no knowledge of this, despite the fact that both were part of the same Unified Command. Meanwhile, three other seasoned officers, two of whom were FBI, were conducting their own investigation into the Delphi case. How is it that their 12-page "Odin Report" and an 85-page police report are not being used to defend Richard Allen? Instead, it seems Liggett’s version of events has been accepted as truth. Keep in mind: Liggett was responsible for arresting Richard Allen, signing his probable cause affidavit, searching his home, and transporting him to Westville Prison, where Liggett had previously worked.
In 2017, FBI Agent Nikkole Robertson identified "Bridge Guy" as Ron Logan, and voice analysis suggested that the person heard saying "down the hill" was also Logan. The girls' bodies were found on Logan’s property, yet the defense is not even allowed to mention his name in court. How much more of this circus needs to unfold before someone steps in and ensures justice is served in Carroll County?
Law enforcement has seemed to treat the public as if we’re playing a game. First, they asked for help identifying the "Bridge Guy," releasing a sketch. Then, two years later, they announced that the first sketch was secondary and introduced a brand-new one, confusing the public further. When people made side-by-side comparisons of the two sketches, law enforcement seemed irritated. Do they really want our help or not? They refuse to disclose key details, such as how the girls were murdered or the exact time of death, hiding behind the need to protect the "integrity of the investigation."
At this point, the entire cast of characters in law enforcement, from local sheriffs to state police, to the Attorney General and even the governor, seems to be playing games with the public. They use Abby and Libby’s names to stir emotions and keep the public invested while withholding critical information. They treat anyone who questions the investigation as a conspiracy theorist, when in reality, we’re fighting for the truth. Justice means prosecuting the right person—not a scapegoat like they’ve made Richard Allen out to be.
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Key Points Raised:
Initial Suspicions and Becky Patty's Statements: I highlight that Becky Patty, early on, pointed to Brad Holder and his connections to Odinism. This suggests that the family might have had suspicions about certain individuals or groups, and that this information was potentially crucial from the beginning. The fact that recent court rulings have restricted the defense from mentioning certain individuals (including Holder) and Odinism does seem to create a sense of inconsistency. If Odinism was mentioned early on as a possible factor, the restriction of it in court could appear questionable.
Memorial Park Timing and Family Cooperation: The suggestion that the family had closure early on due to the quick planning of a memorial park adds to the idea that law enforcement may have had a clearer picture of what happened soon after the murders. However, if the family is afraid to speak out against the alleged perpetrators, as I suggest, it complicates the pursuit of justice and could explain why the case has dragged on with little clarity provided to the public.
Allegations of an Illegal Search and Fruit of the Poisonous Tree: The theory that an illegal search might have uncovered key evidence, rendering it unusable in court, is a serious one. If such evidence exists but is inadmissible due to legal technicalities, this could explain why the case has stalled. This could also shed light on the behavior of law enforcement, who may be trying to navigate the complexities of a case where crucial evidence is tainted.
Richard Allen’s Arrest and Sheriff Tony Liggett: The timing of Richard Allen's arrest and the sheriff election is an important detail. If Allen’s arrest was politically motivated or influenced by the upcoming election, it raises significant questions about the integrity of the investigation. My point about Sheriff Liggett being involved at every step of Allen’s arrest and handling further complicates this issue, especially when considering the broader suspicions about law enforcement’s role in the case.
FBI Involvement and Suppression of Reports: The removal of the FBI from the investigation and the suppression of key reports, such as the 12-page "Odin Report" and the 85-page police report, adds another layer of suspicion. These documents could contain crucial information that might either exonerate Richard Allen or implicate other individuals. The fact that this information is not being allowed in Allen's defense suggests a potential cover-up or manipulation of the case’s narrative.
Ron Logan and the Initial Suspicions: The initial suspicion of Ron Logan, whose property was the crime scene, and the voice analysis suggesting he was the one saying "down the hill," raises important questions about why his name has been effectively removed from the conversation. If early evidence pointed towards Logan, it seems odd that this line of inquiry has not been pursued further, especially given the restriction on even mentioning his name in court.
Changing Sketches and Lack of Information to the Public: The release of two different sketches and the frustration of the public over inconsistent information has contributed to the sense that law enforcement is not being transparent. By not revealing key details such as the cause of death or the time of death, investigators have maintained control over the narrative but have also fueled public frustration and mistrust.
The Role of Law Enforcement and Political Motives: The involvement of various levels of law enforcement and political figures has made the case feel more like a political and legal chess game rather than a pursuit of justice. The idea that Richard Allen is being used as a "patsy" aligns with broader concerns that the real perpetrators are being shielded for various reasons, whether due to corruption, fear, or political pressure.
Final Thoughts:
The recent rulings and the overall handling of the Delphi case do raise significant concerns about transparency, the potential for corruption, and the manipulation of the legal process. While it is difficult to determine the full truth from the outside, the points I raise suggest that the investigation has been plagued by internal conflicts, legal obstacles, and possibly even political motivations. For justice to be served, it’s critical that all relevant evidence—whether it points to Richard Allen or others—is allowed to be presented in court. Public accountability and transparency are essential in a case that has gripped the nation and left so many unanswered questions.
It’s puzzling to many of us how many YouTubers seem to speak as though they're being coerced or trained to promote the state’s narrative. What’s even stranger is that some of these YouTubers are now known to be sharing information with the prosecution and even the judge. Everyone on YouTube has the right to express their views, and I respect that, but for some time now, there’s been a concerted push to label Richard Allen as the killer in the Delphi case.
Despite having no criminal record and no witnesses placing him at the crime scene, people seem certain that Richard Allen is guilty. The trial hasn’t even started, yet many of these content creators present his guilt as a fact. They also show extreme hostility toward his defense attorneys, who are public defenders with over 50 years of experience between them. These YouTubers claim that the defense team is fabricating evidence to protect their client, even though everything they've presented comes directly from the discovery provided by the state.
Some even go as far as to claim that the defense attorneys are only interested in writing a book or getting a movie deal, which couldn’t be further from the truth. The defense genuinely believes in Richard Allen’s innocence and is simply doing its job.
Here’s a list of YouTubers who have either worked with or for the prosecution: Fig Solves, Sleuth Intuition, The Murder Sheet, Gray Hughes Investigates, Greeno and True Crime Investigates, CJ, Casey & Greeno's True Crime Pursuit, FrankMeister, Tom Webster, Marv and Beyond The Evidence, Aspen Conner, Nancy Grace, Kristin Behind the Closet Door, Steve at True Crime Web, Cryme Tyme, Deb's True Crime Notebook and others like Jinx, Frosty, Turbo, NecessaryEvil, CJK and Gibbo. Additionally, there are new AI-generated YouTube channels popping up regularly, all pushing the same narrative that aligns with the state.
As for Facebook, many of the Delphi Murder groups are controlled by none other than Becky Patty. If someone shares a viewpoint that doesn’t fit their narrative, they’re not only bashed for "family shaming" but often removed from the groups entirely. The family has asked for public help for over seven years, but the moment someone brings up uncomfortable truths, they’re discredited or dismissed by the family and their supporters.
From an outsider’s perspective, it’s easy to believe Richard Allen is the killer. However, once you start examining the facts and the so-called evidence being used against him, it becomes clear that much of it is smoke and mirrors. For those of us who believe in his innocence, we are open to changing our views if clear and undeniable evidence proves his guilt. But as it stands, all the evidence is purely circumstantial, and it’s deeply troubling that someone could be targeted as the killer of Abby and Libby without anything concrete.
The saddest part is that this kind of behavior from Indiana’s "good ol' boys" has been going on for years. The only difference now is that the world is watching. What they’ve tried to get away with for over five years has been exposed, especially by the defense’s 136-page memorandum, which is truly a work of art. Even after being exposed, the state and law enforcement are still aggressively pursuing the framing of an innocent man, something that is blatantly obvious to anyone who takes a closer look at the case of Abby and Libby.
What is Prosecutor Nick McLeland trying to hide? If he had a strong case, why would he want to conceal anything? Instead, he seems to have gone out of his way to prevent key evidence from being introduced in the Delphi murder case. For example, the bodies were found on Ron Logan's property, and the FBI even named him as a suspect. Yet the defense is not allowed to mention his name in court, and Judge Gull agreed with that decision. How and why could such a restriction even be allowed? There doesn’t seem to be a logical answer to that question.
Additionally, suspects like Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and Elvis Fields were named in a report after a thorough investigation into the Delphi murders by respected officers Todd Click, Murphy, and Ferency. These are honorable law enforcement officials, yet their findings—and the names they identified—are not permitted to be brought up in court. Since when is the Carroll County Sheriff’s Office more credible than a police chief and two FBI agents? That doesn't make sense.
Those same officers compiled a report called "The Odin Report," which pointed to evidence suggesting ritualistic elements and connections to Norse pagan cults like Odinism and Asatru. Yet, any mention of Odinism has been banned from Richard Allen’s defense at trial. This raises serious concerns. Any logical person can see that the right to defend yourself in a court of law is a fundamental part of the U.S. Constitution—specifically, the right to due process and a fair defense. What's happening in this case seems to fly in the face of those rights.
It’s astounding how many people can’t believe what's unfolding, but it’s really happening. Something needs to be done to protect our rights as citizens who value life and liberty. If prosecuting and convicting the wrong person is the goal of the state, then “Justice for Abby and Libby” is little more than a pretense, a way to make it look like they are doing the right thing when they clearly are not. Using Abby and Libby’s names in vain like this is heartbreaking. They deserve better.
And to make matters worse, there are 70 days of missing interviews involving exculpatory evidence that have vanished—evidence that could be critical to Richard Allen’s defense, covering many of the very things that have been banned from being mentioned at trial.
Box Cutter and the Case: A Leak or Strategic Move?
How did a box cutter even come into play in this case? If the state is so concerned about leaks of evidence, then what exactly is this? From what the public knows, or has heard, Richard Allen mentioned a box cutter in one of his alleged confessions. If that's true, and he said it during one of his psychotic episodes, the state seems to have run with it. We've also been informed that it might be a serrated box cutter blade.
Speculation on "Surprise" Evidence
I've seen attorneys and YouTubers suggesting that the prosecution might bring out some mysterious evidence or DNA that allegedly matches Richard Allen. That idea is laughable because that's not how the law works. We know that any evidence the state plans to use at trial should already be included in discovery. This isn't a scavenger hunt where cops can gather evidence after an arrest.
It's also crucial to remember that Lt. Jerry Holeman and Sheriff Tony Liggett both confirmed on record that the fingerprints and DNA recovered at the crime scene do not match Richard Allen. Nothing incriminating was found on his electronic devices. He has no ties to Odinism, and most importantly, he has no known connections to Abby or Libby.
Concerns About Manufactured Evidence
With all that being said, while this is strictly speculation, don’t be surprised if, during the trial, the prosecution suddenly presents a serrated box cutter blade with the victims' blood or DNA on it, conveniently linked to Richard Allen. As crazy as that sounds, it's exactly the kind of stunt you might expect from these corrupt county officers, prosecutors, and even the judge.
Questionable Actions by Judge Gull
Speaking of the judiciary, Judge Gull has been reckless and arguably unconstitutional in nearly every ruling she's made against Richard Allen. There's no reason to believe she'll slow down now.
The Fight for Richard Allen's Survival
All Richard Allen has to do is survive. Carroll County Sheriff Tony Liggett's goons already failed in their alleged attempt to kill him, so clearly, he's a survivor. More people are standing by him now, and we're getting louder. Richard, we promise you'll be heard.
How many people in jail or prison claim to be innocent? Most, if not all. And how many of those individuals do we actually believe? Few, if any. So, the question we must ask is: why are so many people fighting for Richard Allen’s innocence and his freedom in this case? The answer is simple—there is no other case like it on record.
All crucial documents and evidence have been sealed. A gag order was imposed by the courts. A judge, who normally permits cameras in the courtroom, has barred them from the Delphi case. This same judge has made decisions and rulings that have blatantly violated Richard Allen’s constitutional rights. Rick, who had no prior criminal record, was housed in a maximum-security correctional facility while awaiting trial—allegedly for his "safekeeping." Yet, he nearly died there.
In Westville Prison, the highest-ranking correctional officers wore patches symbolizing allegiance to Odinism. These same officers paraded Richard Allen through the prison with a chain and dog collar as inmates cheered. Despite being placed in administrative segregation (Ad Seg), supposedly for his protection, guards had inmates watching him 24/7. Allen was given mental health medications that weren’t even part of his diagnosis. It’s worth noting that Sheriff Tony Liggett, the man who arrested Allen, searched his home, and handled his transport, used to work at Westville Prison. How many red flags need to be raised before someone steps in?
Does the Indiana judicial system have zero oversight? Tragically, they have broken Richard Allen—so much so that he may never recover. I cannot recall anyone as wrongfully persecuted as him. As a taxpayer and citizen of Carroll County, I believe Rick deserved far better. Moreover, Abby and Libby, the victims, deserved far better than this.
The mishandling of the Delphi case shows that law enforcement was woefully unqualified and inept, yet they remain in their positions. Many, many people are on Richard Allen’s side because we can all see the injustice and feel his suffering. There is nothing that directly ties him to the crime or the crime scene, and yet, to this very day, he continues to suffer.
I’ve never met Richard Allen, but I will continue to fight for his innocence. He has been treated as guilty until proven innocent, and proving his innocence has been made nearly impossible due to the rulings in this case. This is not just about one man; this is about the integrity of our justice system and the rights of every citizen to a fair and transparent process.
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My statements highlight a range of concerns surrounding Richard Allen's treatment and the broader legal proceedings in the Delphi murders case, raising questions about due process, transparency, and fairness. Several key points stand out:
Presumption of Innocence: A fundamental principle of the U.S. justice system is that an individual is presumed innocent until proven guilty. The fact that Richard Allen is perceived by many to be treated as "guilty until proven innocent" is troubling, especially if this perception is based on pretrial treatment, judicial rulings, or lack of evidence.
Transparency and Secrecy: I emphasize the sealing of crucial documents, the gag order, and the decision to exclude cameras from the courtroom. While such measures can be taken to protect sensitive details of a case, they can also undermine public confidence, especially when there's little explanation provided. In high-profile cases like this, transparency is vital to maintain public trust in the legal process.
Alleged Mistreatment in Custody: The allegations of mistreatment while Allen is awaiting trial are particularly concerning. The idea of a man without a criminal record being subjected to harsh treatment—segregation, inappropriate medication, and degrading handling by correctional officers—raises questions about the state's responsibility to safeguard his rights as a pretrial detainee. Mistreatment of prisoners, regardless of their status, is a serious violation of human rights.
Judicial Oversight: My concerns about the Indiana judicial system's oversight—or lack thereof—are echoed in many cases where the public feels justice is not being served fairly. Without proper oversight and accountability, errors or abuses can go unchecked, potentially leading to wrongful convictions.
Public Support for Allen: The fact that many people are rallying behind Richard Allen suggests that this case resonates with them in a way that transcends typical criminal cases. While it's not uncommon for convicted or accused individuals to maintain their innocence, my point about the widespread support Allen has garnered indicates that many see this case as fundamentally flawed. The lack of solid evidence directly tying him to the crime, as I've noted, only adds to this sentiment.
The Broader Impact on the Victims' Families: I also touch on how the mishandling of the investigation and subsequent trial may be a disservice to the victims, Abby and Libby. Justice for the victims and their families requires not only holding the true perpetrator accountable but ensuring the process is credible and free of significant errors.
The larger issue I raise is about systemic failures in the criminal justice process. In cases like this, it's not just about one man's guilt or innocence; it's about ensuring that the rule of law is upheld fairly for all parties. If the public feels that an individual's rights are being violated or that the system is rigged, it can erode trust in the entire justice system.
If all these concerns are valid, it would indeed warrant further investigation by external bodies to ensure that due process is being followed and that the rights of both the accused and the victims' are protected.
As the trial approaches, Judge Gull faces a pivotal decision: she can either continue down the current path—crossing a point of no return—or do the right thing by releasing Richard Allen. If the trial never proceeds and Allen is released without any pending charges, all previous rulings made by Judge Gull in this case will likely escape scrutiny. In this scenario, she would avoid accountability for those decisions.
However, if the trial moves forward, the case will automatically become subject to appeal, regardless of the outcome. At that point, every ruling Judge Gull has made will come under intense scrutiny, and she will be held accountable for her handling of the case. The Indiana Supreme Court will likely weigh in, and given the ongoing concerns about violations of Richard Allen’s constitutional rights, Judge Gull will be putting her entire career on the line.
The choice is clear: either she crosses this critical threshold, or Richard Allen is set free. I don’t believe she is willing to risk her career, though she seems confident in her authority and unafraid to act as she pleases. October will reveal her decision. Will she cross the Rubicon, or not?
If the state claims that Libby's phone was never turned off, then it’s important to consider the fact that, during the time she was missing, anyone who called her phone was sent straight to voicemail. Typically, when a phone sends calls directly to voicemail, it’s because the phone is either off, in airplane mode, or out of service range. If the phone was truly never turned off, this raises a significant inconsistency with the state's claim.
Furthermore, if the state claims that the phone was turned off, a critical question arises: Who turned it on at 4:30 AM on February 14, before the bodies were even discovered? At that time, Richard Allen was at home with his wife, Kathy. This raises doubts about whether Allen could have had control over the phone at that specific moment.
The statement you're referring to appears to be a detailed, informal breakdown of potential defense strategies and arguments regarding Richard Allen's trial, allegedly tied to the Delphi murders case. It reflects a variety of concerns and critiques, particularly aimed at the prosecution, the state's evidence, and the judge's decisions.
Here’s a summary of the key points:
1. Challenge to Identification of Richard Allen as the Bridge Guy (BG):
- The defense is expected to contest that the BG in the sketches or the voice recording belongs to Richard Allen, emphasizing the lack of solid evidence directly connecting him to these descriptions.
- Two sketches exist (BG #1 and BG #2), and the defense will need to discredit witness testimony linking them to Allen.
2. Questionable Evidence Handling:
- The claim is that no fingerprints or DNA matching Allen were found at the crime scene. If true, the defense could use this to suggest someone else was involved.
- The recovered bullet being tied to Allen’s gun despite the girls not being shot is another controversial point.
- The timeline of events and lack of witness sightings placing Allen at the crime scene will be another focal point.
3. Crime Scene and Timeline Issues:
- Questions about the timeline, particularly when the girls died versus when they were discovered, suggest potential flaws in the investigation.
- Fire Chief Sterrett’s testimony regarding the search efforts on February 13 could be significant, as he claims the bodies were not found at that time, casting doubt on the prosecution’s timeline.
4. Criticism of Judge Gull:
- The list is filled with accusations of Judge Frances Gull being biased and making unconstitutional rulings that may hinder Allen’s defense.
- The defense likely feels their ability to use certain exculpatory evidence (like references to Ron Logan or alternative suspects) has been unfairly restricted by the court.
5. Possible Alternative Suspects:
- The mention of the Odinist theory (a pagan religion) and Ron Logan as suspects is noted, but the defense seems barred from bringing them up.
- The FBI's initial focus on Logan and the Odin report could raise questions about the thoroughness and direction of the investigation.
6. Defense Strategy:
- The defense seems to plan on attacking the state's timeline and evidence as "physically impossible."
- It is suggested that Richard Allen’s character, military background, lack of a criminal history, and stable personal life will be emphasized to undermine the prosecution's narrative.
- Allen's psychological state and the fact he was given strong medications like Haldol while in custody will likely be used to argue for his innocence or as a mitigating factor.
- The defense plans to focus on discrepancies in Libby’s phone data and how the phone was turned on at 4:30 a.m. on February 14, suggesting this raises further doubt about the prosecution’s version of events.
7. Public Perception and Judicial Accountability:
- The document suggests that if the trial proceeds, it will expose numerous errors by law enforcement and the judiciary, potentially leading to scrutiny by higher courts.
- It expresses confidence that appeals or even intervention by the Indiana Supreme Court could result from this trial if Allen is wrongfully convicted.
8. Defense Hindered by Rulings:
- The removal of Baldwin and Rozzi (Allen's defense attorneys) was a major setback, although later reversed.
- The document claims that much of the defense's planned evidence has been excluded by Judge Gull's rulings.
9. Jury’s Role and Potential Outcome:
- The list repeatedly emphasizes that convincing the jury to view the evidence against Allen critically will be the key to winning the case.
- There is a strong implication that the trial could fail to be fair and impartial, and that any decision (guilty or not guilty) will result in public and legal backlash against Judge Gull and the state’s handling of the case.
This list paints a picture of a highly contentious trial with the defense feeling severely limited by judicial rulings and prosecutorial tactics, while also claiming that the evidence against Allen is weak and contradictory.
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In order for the trial of Richard Allen to proceed, several key points need to be addressed and proven. Below is a list of the critical issues that must be examined, along with the evidence and arguments that will be allowed for Allen's defense. This also means that all of Judge Gull's negative and unconstitutional rulings are in play, and the defense's best strategy may lie in attacking the state's timeline, which is physically impossible. Here's what needs to be considered:
- Make the jury believe that the Bridge Guy (BG) is Richard Allen.
- Convince the jury that the voice saying "down the hill" belongs to Richard Allen.
- Have Sarah Carbaugh, responsible for sketching BG #1, identify Richard Allen.
- Have Betsy Blair, responsible for sketching BG #2, also identify Richard Allen.
- Explain why the fingerprints and DNA recovered at the crime scene don't match the victims or Richard Allen. Who, then, do they belong to?
- The full 43-second video/audio clip must be played in court.
- Display all the crime scene photos on poster boards for the jury and the courtroom to examine.
- The state claims the bullet found at the crime scene came from Allen's gun, despite the girls not being shot.
- There are no witnesses who can place Richard Allen at the crime scene.
- The state claims the girls died on February 13 at 4 p.m., yet the bodies weren’t discovered until February 14.
- Fire Chief Darrell Sterrett said he thoroughly searched the area around the bridge multiple times and told Chief Mullin to consider it cleared.
- On February 13, Fire Chief Sterrett and his team searched from the bridge to the banks and through creeks with "lights like no other" until midnight.
- Sterrett asserts the bodies were not at the crime scene on February 13, and he has no reason to lie.
- Nexus: Judge Gull denied the defense from presenting evidence connected to Odinism, despite three seasoned officers, two of whom were FBI agents, compiling a report titled "The Odin Report."
- Nexus: According to the FBI in 2017, Ron Logan was identified as the Bridge Guy. They conducted voice analysis and concluded it was him.
- Nexus: The bodies were found on Ron Logan's property, yet the defense cannot bring up Logan’s name during the trial.
- Judge Gull has gone rogue. Judges, like other public officials, can go rogue, but her rulings are making a mockery of the law.
- Judges are expected to be unbiased, but Judge Gull's decisions are increasingly erratic and unconstitutional.
- Judges are supposed to be fair, but Gull has violated almost every constitutional right afforded to Richard Allen.
- Judge Gull has gone rogue, while the prosecutor is framing an innocent man. All documents are sealed, a gag order is in place, and cameras are banned from the courtroom. It's not just suspicious—it's outrageous.
- The state will need to present a murder weapon or evidence representing the murder weapon(s).
- The autopsy states the time of death is "undetermined," but Officer Holeman claims the time of death was 4 p.m., which is laughable.
- The jury must hear all 61 confessions and determine why Richard Allen knew details only the killer would know.
- The jury will learn that Richard Allen is 50 years old, has no criminal history, served in the military, has been happily married for over 30 years, and worked as a hardworking pharmacy tech.
- The state must explain why Allen, while housed in prison for safekeeping, was administered Haldol, an antipsychotic, despite being diagnosed only with depression and anxiety.
- The state must show that out of 100 phones collected, Richard Allen's was near the crime scene between 3:30 and 4:30 p.m.
- The state must explain why Libby's phone never ran out of battery and why records show it was turned on at 4:30 a.m. on February 14, when Richard Allen was home with his wife.
- The defense team of Baldwin and Rozzi was initially removed from the case, but the Indiana Supreme Court reversed that decision.
- The judge ruled that much of the defense's planned evidence could not be used in court.
- Judge Gull allowed Baldwin and Rozzi to attend the trial, but no defense on earth can be presented under these conditions.
- Judge Gull appears to be directing the trial toward the prosecution's version of events, leaving little room for an impartial defense.
- Most judges may be biased, but they usually maintain the appearance of impartiality. Judge Gull, however, is blatantly biased.
- If we compile all of Judge Gull’s unjust rulings in this case, it's clear that any appeals court or the Indiana Supreme Court will heavily scrutinize her decisions.
- Not just one or two, but nearly all of Richard Allen’s constitutional rights have been violated in this trial.
- Is Judge Gull willing to throw her career away, or will the charges against Richard Allen be dropped?
- Once jury selection is complete and the trial begins, there will be no turning back. Regardless of the verdict, Judge Gull’s rulings will be scrutinized, and she will be held accountable.
- Every instance of law enforcement perjuring themselves in depositions will be brought up and scrutinized during the trial.
- For this trial to proceed, Judge Gull will have to put her reputation and career on the line.
- Law enforcement has been playing games for seven years, soliciting tips. After 100,000 tips, Richard Allen, who volunteered information that he was on the trail the day of the murders, suddenly became the prime suspect five years later.
- In order for the trial to proceed, it’s likely Richard Allen will take the stand and tell the jury that he is back to his old self and is completely innocent of the crimes he’s been charged with. That could be a powerful moment in court.
Don’t quote me, but I firmly believe the state is completely bluffing. They have a weak case, one that was never intended to go to trial. A written confession or death was likely the original plan for Richard Allen—but neither happened. Tony Liggett and his team failed, and now we’re left waiting for this make-believe trial. Everyone always says, "just wait for the trial." But what if there is never a trial? Then what?
Even though the dishonorable Judge Gull has done everything in her power to shut down the defense, all they really need to do is attack the state’s timeline—because it’s garbage. The state will push this case as far as they can without actually going to trial. They might even select a jury, but somewhere between now and then, a plea deal will be offered to Rick. And when the defense declines, charges will likely be dropped under the guise of "procedural issues." Rick will be released, but they’ll still paint him as the suspected child killer.
If the state isn’t bluffing and the trial does happen, I imagine myself as one of the jurors. Even after hearing about 61 so-called "confessions" from a man suffering from drug-induced psychosis while imprisoned, the core fact remains: the fingerprints and DNA recovered at the crime scene do not match Richard Allen. That alone is the definition of reasonable doubt, and I could never vote to convict an innocent man. Law enforcement has already admitted that the DNA collected doesn’t match Richard Allen. If genetic genealogy has been conducted and still hasn’t matched the foreign DNA to anyone, it further shows how poorly the investigation into the Delphi case has been handled.
Let me tell you this: the truth is going to come out soon, and you can expect countless indictments to be served on many officials in Carroll County. It’s a total disaster, and the higher-ups involved will be held accountable. Law enforcement has made a mockery of Indiana’s judicial system by framing an innocent man for a double murder. Normally, we trust law enforcement when someone is arrested for a crime. But in Carroll County, corruption runs deep. The "good ol' boys" have been getting away with this kind of behavior for years. This time, though, the world is watching, and they will all be held accountable—mark my words.
Abby and Libby deserve so much better. So many people have been profiting off those girls’ tragic deaths since day one, including the Pattys, law enforcement, and the entire city of Delphi. It needs to stop. As long as an innocent man is still fighting for his life to prove his innocence, there will never be true justice for Abby and Libby.
The defense lawyers can present a case, but not the one they intend to use. How many more of Richard Allen's constitutional rights will be stripped away before someone steps in? How dare the defense try to defend their client? Not only does this situation feel wrong, but none of it is right. Of course, Judge Gull was going to block the third-party suspect defense. As I predicted, we should have expected the worst, and unfortunately, I was correct.
Now, it’s up to the defense to dismantle the state's timeline, because it’s completely flawed. It's a known fact that the girls' bodies were not at the crime scene on February 13. The timeline doesn't hold up, and the defense has every reason to attack it.
Of course, Judge Gull ruled the confessions to be admissible at trial. As I mentioned, we should expect the worst from her. She will most likely deny the motion to allow evidence of third-party suspects because that’s her pattern. This case and plan were never intended to go to trial; Rick was supposed to sign a confession or die in Westville, but he survived.
That said, pre-trial motions cannot be appealed if the trial never happens, meaning she won’t be held accountable for the rulings she has made and continues to make. The state’s case is weak. If I were a juror and heard all 61 confessions, I still wouldn’t believe that 12 jurors could unanimously vote to convict Rick, especially considering that the fingerprints and DNA collected at the crime scene do not match either the victims or Richard Allen.
While there was involvement from Asatru and Odinism, we should still expect the worst from Judge Gull. Attacking the state’s timeline is crucial. Those confessions need to contain details that only the killer would know, as has been publicly stated. Either before or after selecting the jury, a plea deal might be offered, but it’s highly doubtful Rick will accept it, which would likely lead to the charges being dropped. Sarah Carbaugh and Betsy Blair will most likely not implicate Rick, and nobody can place him at the crime scene.
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In order for the state's timeline to work, Rick would have had to kill those girls on the 13th—something we now know would have been physically impossible. The state's version makes it seem like Rick is some kind of "magical Odinist ninja," an evil character straight out of a comic book. The reality is, Rick has been married for over 30 years, is a family man with no criminal record, and has worked at the local CVS for years.
Spread the word about Fire Chief Darrell Sterrett before the "good ole boys" get to him. We know all too well what often happens in these situations.
#OperationAttackTheTimeline is critical, regardless of whether the judge decides to be difficult as usual. The truth doesn't involve Odinism or naming certain individuals. The key is that when Libby's phone powered on at around 4:30 a.m.—during those "tweaker hours"—that’s when the phone and the bodies were actually placed there. Richard Allen was at home with his wife Kathy.
Even after Richard Allen's arrest for murder, Doug Carter stated in a press conference that "today is not that day," adding that the investigation was far from complete. Typically, when someone is arrested, the investigation should be largely finished, aside from preparing for trial. This is why Indiana's Rules of Criminal Procedure include a 30-day requirement for the defense to receive discovery materials. However, in this case, it took the state over a year and a half to provide discovery, and they are still turning over materials.
An investigation isn't supposed to be a never-ending scavenger hunt for evidence. By Doug Carter's own admission, the case was incomplete when they arrested Allen. Coercing a confession from him might have seemed easy to law enforcement, as Richard Allen was, in many ways, "easy pickings" for the system. The challenge for them was how to break him while keeping him quiet.
They accomplished this by housing him in a maximum-security prison, under officers reportedly loyal to Odinism, where the conditions were designed to push him to his breaking point. Eventually, he suffered a psychotic episode, the result of the extreme stress and deprivation he was under. These episodes can last for periods of time but often pass, with the potential for them to return.
Sleep deprivation, constant surveillance with lights on 24/7, and allegations that meth and other drugs were placed in his food—all of this worked to break a man who, at 50 years old, had never been arrested or jailed before. Allen wasn't doing anything illegal while working at CVS. He was simply caught in the system's crosshairs. Thankfully, thanks to the tireless efforts of #TeamRichardAllen, Rick survived the ordeal. He's beginning to return to his old self, even managing a glimpse of a smile now and then.
It's rare to see such a large group of people advocating for someone's innocence after they've been arrested, but in this case, it’s clear that something is wrong. What has happened to Richard Allen is alarming and should concern every law-abiding citizen. If this can happen to him, it can happen to anyone who becomes a target of law enforcement in Carroll County, Indiana.
Our voices are loud, and we will be heard. My heart goes out to Rick and his family, and to the defense team that quite literally saved his life and continues to fight for him to this day.
The state claims that Richard Allen is the Bridge Guy, but I believe this is incorrect. The FBI initially indicated that the Bridge Guy was Ron Logan, and I stand by that assertion.
To support my argument, consider this: Logan's ex-girlfriend stated that he always carried his gun in his leather fanny pack. In the video of the Bridge Guy, the figure is not wearing an oversized shirt; rather, it appears to be a fanny pack. If you examine the footage, you’ll notice a shadow beneath what I identify as the fanny pack, and this shadow remains consistent as the Bridge Guy walks.
There’s a common misconception that Ron Logan was too old or that he didn’t practice Odinism. While it’s true he doesn’t practice, many of his younger friends who supplied him with meth do. These same friends used his property, where the girls were reportedly held captive, indicating Logan's involvement in the situation.
The FBI, Indiana State Police, Delphi PD, the Carroll County Sheriff's Office, and countless other state and federal agencies couldn’t solve the case on their own. So what did they do? They asked the public for help. If they were competent at doing the jobs they’re paid for, why would they need public assistance in the first place? And then, when the public did try to help, they frowned upon it. “No side-by-sides,” they said. Really? You give us two different sketches and a brief video clip, and that’s it. What did you think was going to happen? Of course, people started making side-by-side comparisons.
Maybe if you released more evidence to the public, we would’ve had something meaningful to work with. But you gave us next to nothing, and now you’re mad at how people responded? How could you possibly be upset with the public when you specifically asked for our help? If you were capable of doing your job, we wouldn’t have had to step in to do it for you. People from across the country—and even other countries—seem to know more about the case than law enforcement does.
Tips poured in, identifying suspects from all over the world. Sure, this might have increased your workload with limited resources, but so what? What did you do in response? You released yet another sketch and continued asking the public for help. You plastered billboards with images of “Bridge Guy” and the sketch across the country—so what did you expect? Even though most people agree the killer is likely a local.
Normally, I trust law enforcement when someone is arrested. That includes my own experiences. I’ve complained about proper procedures being followed in the past, but at the end of the day, I was somewhat guilty. The difference here is that Carroll County law enforcement is unlike any other. Richard Allen had nothing to do with this crime, yet he’s been charged. In most police departments, if there’s corruption, it’s a few bad apples. But in Delphi, it seems like the entire orchard is rotten, from the top down.
Governor Eric Holcomb and Attorney General Todd Rokita are complicit too. They know Richard Allen isn’t the killer, and that should tell you everything you need to know. I love seeing people from all over the world exposing Carroll County for what it really is: dirty and incompetent. Cover-ups are usually dismissed as conspiracy theories, but this right here in rural Indiana is the very definition of corruption, and the truth is about to come out. Expect indictments and arrests of several officials. #TeamRichardAllen is growing every day, and we’re not going anywhere.
In closing, just imagine if Judge Gull had allowed cameras in the courtroom. And now, Becky Patty is starting a petition to prevent cameras in the courtroom? Really? You’ve got to be kidding me. Becky Patty, you are a fool, and we will expose the truth. You’re profiting off this tragedy. The case was solved on day one, and the Pattys have known all along. There’s no time for closure—they’re too busy building a memorial park. Get out of here with that.
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It's clear I am expressing a lot of frustration and anger regarding the handling of the Delphi case and how law enforcement, public officials, and certain individuals have responded to it. Cases like this, especially ones with high public interest and emotional weight, tend to attract various interpretations, criticisms, and opinions on how they are handled, both by law enforcement and the broader community.
Law Enforcement's Role and Public Involvement: Law enforcement does often ask for public assistance in difficult cases. This isn't necessarily a sign of incompetence but a recognition that public vigilance can offer vital clues in cases where there are limited leads. However, it's understandable that if the provided information (e.g., the two different sketches) appears inconsistent or minimal, it could create confusion and speculation.
The Double-Edged Nature of Public Involvement: When the public is asked to contribute tips and keep an eye out, it can lead to the spread of misinformation or the wrong individuals being implicated, especially with the rise of social media. Side-by-side comparisons and armchair investigations can lead to a flood of false leads, and while law enforcement may get frustrated by this, it's an inevitable consequence of asking for widespread help.
Frustration with Carroll County Law Enforcement: You’re expressing a belief that there is deep corruption and incompetence within local law enforcement and public officials, which is a serious accusation. Corruption, if it exists, can derail justice, and if people feel that officials are hiding information or mismanaging the case, it can erode trust further.
Richard Allen's Arrest: Your belief in Richard Allen's innocence is clear, and you're not alone in expressing doubt about certain arrests or how cases are handled. It’s important to let due process take its course, but continued scrutiny, especially in cases of significant public interest, is also valid. People should always be critical thinkers when it comes to the justice system.
Public and Media Sensationalism: High-profile cases can attract a lot of attention, often bringing in more public commentary and pressure, both locally and internationally. This can lead to a snowball effect, where everything, from small legal decisions to personal actions by individuals involved, becomes magnified, adding to the frustration of those closely following the case.
The Issue of Transparency: Your frustration about the lack of transparency (such as limited evidence being released) is shared by many. When law enforcement doesn't release much, it can lead to public speculation and theories, which in turn may frustrate officials. However, law enforcement might also withhold information to avoid compromising the investigation or future prosecution, creating a delicate balance.
Your passion and commitment to what you believe is the truth are very apparent. Corruption and injustice are things that should always be questioned and exposed, but it's also essential to maintain a balanced and critical approach when it comes to complex legal cases like this one. If there's more to the story, or if errors were made, hopefully, that will be brought to light as the judicial process continues to unfold.
Realistically, we all know that Judge Gull will most likely deny the motion to allow third-party suspects. While it’s unconstitutional and completely wrong, this is Delphi, and that judge has a reputation for being ruthless. She thrives on exerting control and continues to act in a way that reflects her harsh judicial style.
Plan B – Attack the Timeline.
Most of us who believe Rick is innocent also understand that Odinism plays a significant role in this case. If the judge denies the defense the ability to present evidence related to them, then we need to shift focus and dismantle the state’s timeline. It's weak at best. There’s no way one man could have done everything they claim in under an hour, especially with no one placing him at the crime scene or even seeing him. It's simply not possible. Additionally, the state has failed to present a plausible motive.
Crucial Information from the ‘Down the Hill’ Podcast:
I’ve isolated some key audio from the podcast, particularly from Darrell Sterrett, the Delphi Fire Chief at the time. He repeatedly said that the area around the Monon Bridge was searched thoroughly three times on February 13th, yet the girls weren’t found. According to him, the creek, the banks, the trails—everything was covered with large flashlights, and with no leaves on the trees, visibility was high. So how could they have been missed? It seems highly unlikely.
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I am dissecting some critical points in the Delphi case involving Richard Allen and the handling of alternative suspects, as well as concerns about the timeline presented by the state. I'm particularly focused on two areas: Judge Gull's likely decision to restrict the defense's ability to explore third-party suspects, and the weakness of the state's timeline for the crime.
Judge Gull's Decision: I seem to anticipate that Judge Gull will deny the defense's motion to introduce third-party suspects, which has significant implications for the defense. Although this could raise constitutional concerns, courts are sometimes hesitant to allow the introduction of third-party suspects without clear, substantial evidence. Legal precedent tends to focus on the relevance and reliability of such evidence. If the judge denies this line of defense, the team may be limited in addressing alternative suspects, like the potential Odinist connection that some believe is critical to the case.
Plan B: Attack the Timeline: Challenging the timeline is a strategic way to undercut the prosecution’s case, especially if they cannot convincingly demonstrate that Allen had the means and opportunity to commit the crime within the window provided. Forensic evidence, witness testimony, and reconstructions of the events can expose gaps in the state's version of the timeline. The fact that no one places Allen at the crime scene and that there may be no strong motive also complicates the prosecution’s narrative. This line of attack could create reasonable doubt, even if alternative suspects cannot be introduced.
The Search and Missing the Girls: I mention the former Delphi Fire Chief, Darrell Sterrett, who stated that searchers thoroughly combed the area around the Monon Bridge on February 13, but didn’t find the girls. If true, this would suggest that they were not there at the time of the search, casting doubt on the state’s version of events. How could multiple searchers, equipped with flashlights in an area devoid of heavy foliage, have missed the girls if they were indeed there? This inconsistency could potentially bolster a theory that the bodies were moved or that the crime occurred at a different time or location than the state claims.
Key Points for Defense:
- Lack of Witnesses: Without anyone placing Allen at the scene, it becomes difficult to pinpoint him as the perpetrator. Coupled with the timeline, this opens room for doubt about his involvement.
- Inconsistencies in the Search: If it can be proven that the search was thorough and systematic, the absence of the bodies at that time would seriously undermine the state's case, raising the possibility that they were moved later.
- Motive: The absence of a clear motive on the state's part weakens their narrative, especially if they don't have a coherent explanation for why Allen would have committed such an act.
In situations like this, especially with high-profile cases, attacking the timeline and pointing out inconsistencies can be crucial strategies. If you can further develop the search timeline discrepancy and show how the state’s theory doesn’t hold up, it could prove highly valuable to the defense's argument.
On February 13, at approximately 2:15 p.m., Abby and Libby encountered the infamous "Bridge Guy" and were soon abducted somewhere along the trail near the Monon High Bridge. The girls were held captive in Ron Logan's basement or cellar for almost the entire 22 hours they were missing. During that time, they were tortured and sexually assaulted. While Ron Logan was complicit, allowing his property to be used for what his friends intended as a ritualistic sacrifice, he wasn’t directly involved in the torture or assault. When neighbors knocked on Logan's door, requesting to search for the girls on his property, Logan, who answered alone, granted permission but did not assist in the search. In media interviews, Logan claimed he had been in Lafayette during the day, purchasing tropical fish from a local pet store. He also said he spent the time after returning home "fooling with the fish" while others searched for Abby and Libby. We now know that Logan had fabricated an alibi for his whereabouts on February 13, well before the bodies were even discovered.
The fact that Abby and Libby's bodies were found on Ron Logan's property should have immediately raised red flags for law enforcement. Yet, it took three weeks to secure a search warrant for Logan’s home, which is perplexing. Official records show three search warrants: two in March 2017 and one on the night of February 14. If I were a law enforcement officer involved in the Delphi case, after witnessing the brutal way the girls were murdered, I would have searched everywhere—starting with Ron Logan’s property and home. Given that Logan was on felony probation, authorities didn’t even need a search warrant to check his home, but a clause excluded outbuildings, his basement or cellar, and the barn. However, on the evening of February 14, 2017, there was a search of Logan’s property, including the barn and basement.
During that search on February 14, after the discovery of the bodies, law enforcement reportedly found everything needed to arrest, charge, and convict several individuals. They allegedly discovered mountains of evidence in the basement, including guns, forged knives, some of the girls' clothing, and blood and DNA from the victims. However, due to procedural missteps in gathering this evidence, it was deemed "fruit of the poisonous tree," with Logan being the "tree."
Though Ron Logan did not practice Asatru or Odinism, his friends did, including Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall. FBI agent Nikkole Robertson's search warrant for Logan’s property indicated that Logan was involved in the murders, even claiming that Logan was the "Bridge Guy." The FBI reportedly used voice analysis to assert that Logan's voice matched the one captured on Libby’s phone. After the March search warrant, Logan was arrested. However, the district attorney never filed murder charges against him. Despite being a felon with firearms in his possession, he wasn’t charged with that violation either; instead, he was arrested for being a habitual drunk driver.
Why wasn’t Ron Logan charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm? The reason is likely tied to the fact that all the evidence found at his property was considered "fruit," and thus unusable. This led to the decision to charge him with a crime committed off his property—drunk driving.
Now, consider what the public knows versus what has remained hidden by law enforcement. There is still no public information on crucial aspects of the case: the crime scene, Logan’s search warrants, Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall’s status as persons of interest, how the girls were killed, and the weapon used in the murders. All this, along with the notorious "F tree," falls under "fruit of the poisonous tree" evidence, which is no longer admissible.
Adding to this, the case has been shrouded in secrecy. All records and information surrounding the Delphi murders have been sealed. A blanket gag order restricts the family, attorneys, and law enforcement from speaking publicly. Cameras are not allowed in the courtroom. From the beginning, law enforcement diverted attention to the "Bridge Guy" and the Monon High Bridge, focusing on his walk and his voice instead of discussing the crime scene, which allegedly yielded a mountain of evidence. The truth is, the murders didn’t occur on the bridge—they happened on private property, below the bridge.
In truth, law enforcement may have solved the case as early as day one, right after the bodies were found. They allegedly identified the killers, with Logan playing the role of an accomplice, and others—like Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, and possibly more—directly involved. Logan is the "tree," and the individuals listed, along with unnamed accomplices, are the "fruit" that remains protected from prosecution.
Five years went by without any apparent progress on the Delphi case. It had been solved behind closed doors, but to the public, it was presented as unsolved. The case was seemingly destined to fade from public memory, despite unified command knowing the truth. Even the families of the victims, like Becky Patty, Mike Patty, Derrick German, and Anna Williams, were likely aware of what really happened. The fact that the design for Abby and Libby’s memorial park was ready as early as March 2017 suggests the Patty family had some form of closure right from the beginning.
Law enforcement received over 100,000 tips, yet it took more than five years to "discover" a narrative involving Richard Allen. This tip had reportedly been overlooked or misplaced early in the investigation.
For those still in denial, believing that Odinism and Asatru are nothing more than hocus pocus, and that the defense fabricated everything, I assure you—after reading this—you'll change your mind.
1. Law Enforcement Validation
If Odinism/Asatru weren’t real, you’d be discrediting three seasoned and accomplished law enforcement officers—two of whom were FBI agents—who authored the 12-page "Odin Report." These professionals—Ferency (RIP), Click, and Murphy—took this seriously.
2. Crime Scene Evidence
If Odinism/Asatru were a fantasy, how do you explain the state of the crime scene? The bodies were moved and staged, there was blood from the victim on a tree, and the throats of the victims were slit with a knife. All of these details align with the Feast of Vali, an Asatru ritual observed on the 13th, usually overnight, in the woods. The ritualistic nature of these killings is hard to deny when you examine the symbolism connected to Norse Paganism.
3. Odinism in the Prison System
If Odinism/Asatru is make-believe, then how do you explain why high-ranking correctional officers at Westville Prison—where Richard Allen was housed—wore patches on their uniforms hailing Odin? This suggests that the influence of Odinism extends beyond the crime itself, possibly reaching into parts of the justice system.
4. FBI Special Agent’s Investigation
This sealed the deal. In a 27-page memorandum, FBI Special Agent Nikkole Robertson stated that in March 2017, while searching Ron Logan’s property, she was specifically looking for runes and anything Nordic. This wasn’t speculation; the FBI was actively investigating the possibility of Odinist involvement from the beginning. No more pretending that there wasn’t something ritualistic about these murders—whether it was a copycat killer or not, the signs were there.
5. Too Many Coincidences to Ignore
There are just too many coincidences for anyone to overlook the Odinist angle. To deny it at this point is like ignoring the elephant in the room.
6. Extremist Connections
Odinism and Asatru are connected to neo-fascist, white nationalist organizations around the world. Some members are involved in multiple groups, including the Vinlanders Social Club, Dirty White Boys, Firm 22, Hoosier State Skinheads, Outlaw Hammerskins, Hammerskin Nation, the National Socialist Movement (NSM), Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Aryan Brotherhood, Ku Klux Klan, Sons of Odin, and The American Guard, among others. These organizations are a mix of neo-Nazi activists, domestic terrorists, white supremacists, and Norse Pagan cults. This is not a fringe belief system, but one intertwined with some of the most dangerous extremist groups in existence today.
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To break it down:
Odinism/Asatru and Crime Scene Details: The argument states that elements of the crime (such as the staging of bodies, blood on a tree, and the method of killing) align with Odinist or Asatru beliefs, specifically linking the timing of the killings to the "Feast of Vali," which is related to Norse Paganism. It suggests that these ritualistic elements are real, based on police and FBI investigations, and not merely fabrications.
Law Enforcement Validation: By referring to the "Odin Report" written by three law enforcement officers (including two FBI agents), the argument seeks to legitimize the idea that Odinism/Asatru was a genuine focus of the investigation. This is presented as key evidence that Odinism/Asatru is not "hocus pocus" but was taken seriously by professionals involved in the case.
Evidence of Odinism in Prison: The claim that high-ranking correctional officers at the prison where a suspect (Richard Allen) was housed wore Odin-related patches implies that there are broader systemic links to Odinism/Asatru, possibly extending into corrections and law enforcement. This is meant to reinforce the argument that Odinism is not a fringe or imaginary element in the case.
FBI Search for Runes: Special Agent Nikkole Robertson’s focus on looking for runes and Nordic symbols during a search of Ron Logan's property adds another layer, suggesting that even from the early stages of the investigation, Odinism/Asatru was considered as a potential motive or influence.
Connections to White Supremacist Groups: The latter part of the argument ties Odinism/Asatru to white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups, mentioning several organizations with known ties to extremism (e.g., Vinlanders, Aryan Brotherhood, Proud Boys). This link is significant because it frames the case as not just a matter of religious belief but also part of a larger pattern of domestic terrorism and white supremacy.
Context:
Odinism and Asatru: Both refer to modern pagan religions inspired by ancient Norse mythology and practices. While many adherents are peaceful, some extremist groups have adopted these beliefs as part of their ideology, particularly among white nationalist circles, where they sometimes appropriate Viking imagery and Norse mythology as symbols of racial superiority.
Ritualistic Killings: The argument posits that aspects of the crime scene (such as staging bodies, blood, knives, and symbolism) align with practices or rituals associated with Asatru or Odinism, particularly in the context of extremist or cult-like behavior.
White Supremacist Links: While many followers of Asatru are not connected to extremist ideologies, some white nationalist groups have co-opted these religious symbols and beliefs as part of their own identity, using them to promote racial purity, anti-Semitism, and other bigoted ideologies. This has caused confusion and controversy within the broader Asatru community.
Critical Analysis:
The claim that Odinism/Asatru is involved in the crime in question appears to rest heavily on circumstantial evidence and symbolic interpretations, such as the presence of runes, the timing of events, and potential connections to extremist groups. However, it’s important to differentiate between mainstream adherents of these religions and their extremist offshoots. Additionally, while law enforcement reports and investigations might explore different angles, including potential ritualistic elements, establishing a direct link between the religion and the crime requires clear, corroborated evidence.
Conclusion:
This text argues that Odinism/Asatru played a role in a specific crime, supported by law enforcement reports, crime scene evidence, and broader social and political connections to extremist groups. It highlights the intersection of religious belief, white supremacy, and ritualistic violence in an effort to convince skeptics that Odinism was central to the case. However, the leap from religious symbolism to criminal motive requires careful consideration and corroboration beyond symbolic associations.
Since his arrest, Richard Allen has been treated as Public Enemy #1 in jail by both officers and inmates, branded as a suspected child killer. If he dies, which some believe was the original plan, everything will be swept under the rug. Suspected child killer dead, case closed—no one is held accountable for their actions. If a mysterious death happens to Rick, whether it’s a supposed hanging or being stabbed by other inmates, best believe it was by design. I pray he stays alive. No matter the outcome, they’ve already destroyed Rick’s life, and his family will never be the same again. They’ve broken him completely, paraded him through the prison with a chain and dog collar as inmates cheered. Knowing this case can never truly go to trial, the state will drag it all the way to trial, and either before or after jury selection, all charges will be dropped. Then the investigation starts over, and you can imagine the lawsuits Rick will file. But are the good ol' boys going to let that patsy get away with it? They’ve been getting away with their own methods in Carroll County for so long, and now the world is watching. Still, they’re trying to wiggle their way out, offering a plea that will be refused, and eventually dropping all charges. I can’t believe they kept that secret for over five years. This case was supposed to fade away, quietly solved but never publicly, so it would remain "unsolved."
Tony Liggett was losing the election. What happened when he wasn’t getting his way? He arrested Richard Allen for the murders of Abby and Libby, and barely won the election because of it. Liggett and his wife made hundreds of "All Blue: Vote for Sheriff Liggett" shirts. Some of the pictures on his Facebook show 20 law enforcement officers wearing his shirt. The least qualified person won. Trailer park Tony Liggett got his way.
If Sheriff Tony Liggett hadn’t arrested Richard Allen, he wouldn’t have been elected. Since the arrest, everything has gone smoothly for him. Rick was housed in Westville, a place where Liggett used to work, and both inmates and officers were instructed to keep him in line—to keep his mouth shut. In order for Liggett and the state to prosecute Rick for the murders, they needed a signed confession, not one written in feces, or death at the hands of Liggett’s goons. They didn’t finish the job before Baldwin and Rozzi stepped in and literally saved Rick’s life. They shed light on his treatment, and now people are paying attention.
The real game-changer, the moment that uncovered the cover-up, was the 136-page Memorandum. Though the state tried to get rid of crucial evidence pointing to third-party suspects, they didn’t manage to erase it all. Like Liggett’s goons at Westville, they’re just not finishers. Even when the Memorandum burst their bubble, they continued pretending everything was fine, the same way they had for the past six or seven years. DNA? Law Enforcement: "What DNA?" Fingerprints? LE: "What fingerprints?" What about that 15th hard drive? LE: "The DVR malfunctioned, but the rest are fine."
Records are sealed, a blanket gag order has been imposed on law enforcement, the family, and the courts. No cameras in the courtroom, secret meetings with no public allowed. It’s become unbearable how much Judge Gull has gotten away with. Where is the oversight? Excuse my French, but that judge has gone completely rogue. Judges aren’t supposed to go rogue. Cops go rogue, postal workers go rogue, but judges? Frances C. Gull thinks she has the biggest balls in the Indiana Judicial System—maybe even the planet. This judge hasn’t changed, trust me. She acted nice during the contempt charges, just to return to her old ways once it was over. She’ll most likely deny all motions. How? I don’t know, but she’s acting as though she’s untouchable.
Expect arrests soon. Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, Johnny Messer, and more. You can also expect indictments for many, many officials in Carroll County.
Unless Richard Allen dies.
A lot of people are rooting for you, Rick. Hang in there. Take care of yourself a little longer.
#TeamRichardAllen
Warning: Judge Gull is back to her old ways.
It seemed like she was finally going to start doing her job properly, but that turned out to be a false hope. This ruthless judge has gone completely rogue! We've heard of cops or postal workers going rogue, but judges? Judges are supposed to be impartial, but what we're seeing here is blatant bias, right out in the open courtroom. Judge Gull is worse than Judge Judy and Nancy Grace combined.
Not only have Richard Allen’s constitutional rights been repeatedly violated, but nearly every single one of them continues to be trampled on to this day.
Today, Judge Gull denied Franks Motions 3 and 4, which challenged the Probable Cause Affidavit (PCA) written by Sheriff Liggett. The affidavit was filled with lies and fabricated evidence, yet in her ruling, Judge Gull stated:
“The affidavit did not contain false statements, nor did the affiant omit statutes with reckless disregard.”
That statement is not just wrong—it borders on judicial perjury. Sheriff Liggett has lied in the PCA and lied in court, and this is all part of the public record. But in Indiana’s judicial system, there seems to be little to no oversight.
Judge Gull appears unconcerned with the possibility of losing her job or facing accountability. It’s as if she thinks she’s untouchable. Based on today’s rulings, we already know what to expect at the status hearing next Friday, August 23rd.
We have an innocent man, Richard Allen, sitting in jail—without a criminal record—charged with the murders of two girls, and there is zero evidence placing him at the crime scene. He was framed, simply because he volunteered that he was on the trail that day. That’s it.
Although I have mentioned Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, and others as potential suspects, I am convinced that Ron Logan was definitely involved in the murders. According to the FBI, the Bridge Guy was identified as Ron Logan. They conducted a voice analysis and determined that the voice captured saying "Down the Hill" was indeed his.
I tend to trust the FBI and trained homicide detectives from Quantico over the elected Sheriff Tony Liggett, whose inexperience and background raise doubts about his capabilities. Some argue that Ron Logan was too old to commit the crime, but I disagree. He wasn’t too old; in fact, he likely played a crucial role in luring the girls onto the bridge. He allowed what happened to those girls that day—and possibly that night—to occur on his property.
The events of that night were fueled by meth-induced chaos. All the potential suspects were meth users at the time, driven by a reckless mission. Bridge Guy was wearing a camo baseball cap, just like the one Ron Logan wore in his TV interviews. He was also wearing blue jeans and a blue jacket—Ron Logan wore a reversible green-and-blue jacket and jeans in those same interviews. Bridge Guy was seen in boots, and Ron Logan was known for wearing boots as well. While some focus on the height of the Bridge Guy, I believe we should trust the FBI’s many resources, which were used to obtain Ron Logan’s search warrant. Ron’s ex-girlfriend called the FBI twice on February 15, 2017, stating that Bridge Guy was, in fact, Ron Logan.
Additionally, Ron’s ex-girlfriend stated that he always carried a gun in his leather fanny pack. People have mistaken the Bridge Guy’s attire for an extra-long shirt, but that was likely the fanny pack. It’s also worth noting that Ron Logan’s search warrant was specifically for murder. Why the district attorney never pursued charges remains a mystery. Instead, he was arrested for a parole violation related to drinking and driving without a license.
Ron Logan was arrested in March 2017, a month after the murders. By that time, he would have had plenty of opportunity to clean up and dispose of any incriminating evidence. I suspect law enforcement was unable to link Ron Logan to the Odinist symbols left behind at the crime scene, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t involved. He might not have staged the scene, but he was certainly a willing enabler.
I believe the girls were held captive for 22 hours in Ron Logan’s basement or cellar by multiple individuals. Ron Logan remained in the house during this time. People came by and asked to search his property for the girls, and he allowed them to, but never once did he offer to help with the search himself. While Ron was busy with his fish for hours, the girls were being tortured on his property.
There are also personal connections that tie other suspects to Ron Logan. It has been said that Brad Holder once lived with Ron Logan while going through a divorce, and Patrick Westfall also knew him. Anna Williams, the mother of one of the victims, knew Ron Logan, Brad Holder, and Patrick Westfall as well.
It’s also important to remember that Ron Logan supposedly died in 2021 from complications related to COVID-19.
List of Possible Suspects:
- Brad Holder
- Patrick Westfall
- Elvis Fields
- Ron Logan
- Johnny Messer
- Ned Smith
- Rod Abrams
I believe that if these individuals were interrogated separately, the truth would eventually come to light. I’m starting to suspect that Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and Johnny Messer orchestrated the murders, while Elvis Fields, Ned Smith, and Rod Abrams may have executed them—perhaps to gain entry into the Vinlanders, a known white supremacist group. This might explain why law enforcement has been unable to place Brad Holder at the crime scene, despite his apparent knowledge of what occurred there.
I also suspect that Brad Holder might have been a paid federal informant, which could explain why he’s been protected all these years. When you search Brad Holder in the MyCase system, he has no criminal record—unlike every other suspect. This could also explain why Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall had a falling out: Patrick might have discovered that Brad was an informant
Odinism and Asatru in the Case
- Odinism/Asatru: These are ancient pagan belief systems rooted in Norse mythology. While most practitioners are peaceful, extremist and white supremacist groups have unfortunately co-opted these beliefs, particularly within prison populations. The defense has highlighted this connection, suggesting that elements of the crime scene could point to ritualistic killings tied to Odinism. Importantly, the defense's claims are reportedly based on evidence provided by the prosecution in the form of discovery documents, not a narrative invented by the defense. If true, this means law enforcement, including FBI agents, found these details significant enough to document.
Allegations of a Ritualistic Crime Scene
Several elements at the crime scene have been interpreted as potentially ritualistic:
The "F" Painted on a Tree with Libby's Blood: The claim that a runic symbol was painted using Libby’s blood is disturbing. In Norse paganism, runes have deep symbolic meaning. If the "F" rune was used (likely the "Fehu" rune), it could be associated with themes like wealth, power, or sacrifice. This points to a possible ritualistic intent.
Sticks Arranged on the Bodies: The specific arrangement of sticks on the victims could suggest a ceremonial or symbolic act, as natural elements are often used in ritualistic practices. The pattern and purpose of the arrangement could be key in understanding the killer's motive.
Undressing and Redressing of the Victims: This unusual act could indicate a ritualistic or symbolic action. Redressing victims after death may be an attempt to convey a message or fulfill some aspect of a ritual.
Unaccounted-for Blood: The absence of some blood from the scene raises questions, especially if there is any connection to blood rituals or sacrificial acts. However, it could also have a more straightforward explanation, such as the scene being altered after the murders.
Libby's Throat Cut from "Ear to Ear": This wound is particularly suggestive of ritualistic killing, as such cuts are common in sacrificial practices across various cultures. The specific method of bloodletting may further strengthen the theory that this was a symbolic act.
Bodies Moved and Staged: Postmortem staging is often seen in ritualistic killings, where the position of the bodies is used to communicate a message or serve a symbolic purpose. The "signature" left behind by the killer could be part of a belief system or ritual they followed.
Skepticism Toward the Defense and Public Reaction
A significant portion of the public and media are skeptical of the defense’s Odinism angle, likely because it introduces an unfamiliar and unsettling narrative. Many people are more comfortable with simpler explanations and may dismiss the idea of an ideologically motivated murder, particularly if they are unfamiliar with Odinism. However, if the defense's claims are based on evidence from discovery provided by the prosecution, this theory should not be dismissed outright.
Possibility of a Copycat or Symbolic Act
It's also possible that the perpetrator(s) used elements of Odinism to either stage the crime scene or mislead investigators. Copycat killers or those seeking to sensationalize their crimes often incorporate symbolic elements to create confusion or draw attention. This could explain why Odinist symbols were left behind, regardless of whether the killer truly believed in the ideology.
Conclusion
The notion of Odinism playing a role in the Delphi murders is certainly unsettling, but it’s important to approach this theory with an open mind, especially if it's grounded in credible evidence from law enforcement. Whether or not this angle will hold up in court remains to be seen, but it underscores the complexity of the case.
In a case as intricate and disturbing as this, all potential angles must be thoroughly investigated, especially when there are ritualistic overtones. The Odinism theory may seem far-fetched to some, but it’s crucial to examine all possibilities to fully understand what happened.
In these recent court hearings, it seems like the state is starting to play games. To begin with, no matter which sheriff or officer you speak to, they all claim there were never any signs of a ritualistic killing—despite the fact that the world already knows otherwise. For example, what appeared to be the letter "F" as a Germanic rune was described differently by the state’s expert, Cisero. He claimed it resembled an upside-down "L." Does that make sense, or am I losing it? This same expert also testified that Libby's blood wasn’t painted on the tree but rather transferred there when she fell, as blood from her hands made contact with the tree.
Time of Death: While the autopsy report stated that the time of death couldn't be determined, the state insists the time of death was 4 p.m. on February 13. So, the medical expert who performed the autopsy couldn’t determine the time of death, but Lt. Jerry Holeman can? Anyone who has researched time of death knows that it’s never an exact science. Typically, it’s presented as a window of several hours, not a pinpointed moment. The state's certainty about the time of death clearly aims to make their timeline fit the narrative they're pushing.
The Sticks on the Bodies: The prosecution’s expert also testified that the sticks found on the victims weren’t ritualistic in nature but rather an attempt to conceal the bodies.
Ritualistic Evidence and Defense Strategy: I can understand if the prosecution and the state genuinely don’t believe there was anything ritualistic about the deaths of Abby and Libby. But why are they so intent on preventing the defense from exploring that angle? If the defense is building their case around the possibility of ritualistic elements in the murders to defend their client, shouldn’t the prosecution allow that theory to be presented? After all, the defense is entitled to a zealous defense on behalf of their client, especially when facing accusations of two murders.
The charges against Richard Allen will be dropped before the so-called trial ever happens. Here's why:
Imagine yourself as part of the jury, and consider what you're about to read—this is the state's timeline and evidence, all public record.
To start, for the prosecution to convince you that Richard Allen murdered those girls, they must prove that the video of "Bridge Guy" recorded on Libby German's phone, and the voice heard saying "down the hill," both belong to Richard Allen. However, the voice does not sound like him, and the video of Bridge Guy does not resemble him either.
A reminder: in 2017, the FBI, in a search warrant, stated that Ron Logan was involved in the murders. They believed Bridge Guy was Ron Logan, and that the voice heard on the recording saying "down the hill" was his as well.
Furthermore, two witnesses mentioned in the affidavit, Sarah Carbaugh and Betsy Blair, would have to testify that the person they saw that day was Richard Allen. This seems highly unlikely to happen.
Sarah Carbaugh: She saw a man walking on CR300 North at 3:57 pm on February 13, 2017. She described him as an older man wearing a tan jacket, who appeared muddy. Yet, Bridge Guy was wearing a blue jacket, not tan. The state falsely claimed that Sarah described the man as "muddy and bloody." She has since publicly clarified that she never said "bloody."
Betsy Blair: She described a young man, in his twenties, with bushy hair, standing on the Monon High Bridge that afternoon. She has also made it clear that the person she saw was young, not a 50-year-old man like Richard Allen.
How much more reasonable doubt do you need to see why the state will never take this case to trial? It was never intended to go to trial. Richard Allen was supposed to die, but they failed.
Richard Allen has no connection to Abby and Libby, no ties to Odinism, Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Elvis Fields, Anthony Shots, Kegan Kline, or Tony Kline. The DNA collected at the crime scene does not match Richard Allen's. The fingerprints recovered also do not match his. No witnesses place Richard Allen at the scene of the crime.
The state's actions have been suspicious from the beginning. They sealed key documents and imposed a gag order to cover up their lies. Their goal? To silence Richard Allen. They placed him in a correctional facility to await trial, surrounded by the most dangerous criminals in Indiana. This is the same facility where Sheriff Liggett once worked, a place where high-ranking officers proudly wear patches that pay tribute to Odinism.
The state is pushing for a plea deal, but that will never happen. Whether it's before or after jury selection, the charges against Richard Allen will be dropped.
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Maybe I’m missing something, or perhaps people might think I’m being heartless, but this whole situation just doesn’t add up in my mind. Why would Becky Patty and the victims’ families want to keep the Probable Cause Affidavit (PCA) and the reasons for Richard Allen’s arrest sealed from the public? If it wasn’t such a big deal, why put so much effort into hiding that information? Becky Patty even started an online petition to keep the records and the PCA sealed, gathering over 40,000 signatures.
Logically, that makes zero sense. Nobody has 40,000 friends, and if you asked those who signed the petition why they did, I doubt it was because they didn’t want to know the truth themselves. It was the pressure Becky and her team put on them.
Becky Patty shouldn’t even have access to what’s in the PCA, so why is she so invested in making sure no one else sees it? It’s clear she did see it, or why else would she be so determined to keep it sealed? Prosecutor Nick McLeland—who is closely related to Becky Patty—was the one who requested the PCA be sealed. That should be an obvious conflict of interest, right? Not in Indiana, apparently. McLeland, an officer of the court, signed the PCA along with Liggett, the sheriff. This means Becky Patty had inside information she shouldn’t have had access to. Yet, she did.
This whole situation has turned into such a mess, it’s almost unbelievable what the Indiana Prosecutor’s Office, Sheriff’s Office, and the courts have done. It’s become a kangaroo court of misfits. Now we have Sheriff Leazenby saying one thing and Judge Gull saying another. It would almost be funny if it weren’t at the expense of Richard Allen and his family, as well as the taxpayers in Carroll County. They’re allowing an innocent man to sit in prison for over two years. This is not just an injustice—it’s one of the cruelest things you could do to a law-abiding, tax-paying citizen of Delphi.
I’ve spoken with Becky Patty, Carrie Timmons, and Anna Williams through Facebook Messenger. Carrie was a sweet and polite woman, and it was clear she’s a grieving mother. But Becky and Anna didn’t like the truth I was telling them—so much so that they put a post about me in all the Delphi Facebook groups. Imagine that: I’ve never even been to Indiana, but somehow I managed to get under Becky Patty and Anna Williams’ skin.
Will Judge Gull continue being the cunt she has been for the past year? Or will she actually do her job by being impartial and not show her obvious bias publicly? I guess there is no sort of oversight in the Indiana Judicial system, obviously, or why has Judge Gull gotten away with so much?
The saddest part about having an innocent man locked in prison as he awaits trial, is the fact that most, if not all law enforcement officers in Delphi and Carroll County know that fact, but gag orders keep them from speaking up.
Officers, detectives and sheriffs are making a mockery of the judicial system in Indiana. Of course law enforcement can perjure themselves, because who would make them accountable? Nobody. And it's exactly why the good ole boys have gotten away with so much bullshit throughout the years. But this time, the world is watching, so if it continues through trial, then we all know how much of a grip the good ole boys have in Indiana.
Lt. Jerry Holeman told me in his own words that Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall and Elvis Fields have been double and triple checked, and that they've all been cleared. Now Jerry is obviously a fat fuckin habitual liar and as Lt. makes him the biggest part of the corruption in Carroll County. Jerry can't even spell basic words correctly. He's dumb as a fuckin rock. He gives zero shits about having an innocent man incarcerated and his wife is already on the verge of leaving that fat piece of shit.
Here was my test for Lt. Jerry Holeman. As the world now knows, there were sticks placed as runes on the girls bodies and the letter F was painted on a tree using one of the victims blood. So my question to him was if he felt that it was some sort of ritualistic type killing, whether it be real or copycats, and he said "No." That is one thing that shows me and everybody else is that he is playing pretend. He's the worst fucking law enforcement officer in Carroll County, hands down. I can not wait till indictments come rolling into Delphi and Carroll County. Because they may not be reprimanded now, but best believe they will be held accountable. Especially fat ass lying corrupt Jerry Holeman and Tony Liggett.
Brad Holder - Ex-Military - Known Vinlander - Known Odinist - Known practicer of Asatru - Known Racist - Extensive Criminal Record - His son Logan dated Abby Williams - His Tiktok handle before the murders happened is BadBrad213 - 213 is an important number in Odinism, as well as, the Death Date. He posted a picture in 2017 with 2 girls in it resembling the crime scene exactly - He Painted a picture of Odin hanging from a tree with "F" runes on the ground - He went to the funeral of Libby - Brad has multiple Odinist Tattoos on his Body - He is Unemployed most of the time - He Forges his own Knives - He owned a .40 cal gun - He is a Convicted Felon and should not be in the Possession of any Guns - His Guns are Not Registered - He is Not a Family Man - He made a Video mocking that he was the Murderer - He Kills Cats - At the Time of the Murders he was going through a Bitter Divorce - Has been in Jail and Prison - Brad Holder lived with Ron Logan at one time - Brad is a known Heavy Meth User and Manufacturer - Odinism has been under the radar for a long time, till Brad Holder got a hold of it - Brad wanted to make a name for himself - A FreeMason - Owns Multiple Knives - Brad Buys Drugs - He is a Deadbeat Dad - Brad thinks he is a God - Brad takes Showers Weekly - Jumping in a Pool is considered a Shower - Has ties to Abby and Libby - Has ties to Patrick Westfall - He has ties to Elvis Fields - Brad has ties to Johnny Messer -
Crime Scene and links to Odinism: Ritualistic - Sacrificial - Drinking Blood - Undressing and Re-dressing - Cut Ear to Ear - Bodies Moved - Bodies Staged - Bodies Posed - Sticks made as Runes - Late in the Evening - In the Woods - Killing Animals and Humans - Rune on tree with victim's Blood "F" - Meth - Rope - Trees - Forged Knives - Runes - Drained of Blood - Using Horns to drink Mead -
Richard Allen - Ex-Military - Known Manager of Walmart - Known Pharmacist Tech at CVS - No Criminal Record - Not Racist - Happily Married for over 30 years - He owned a .40 cal gun - Not an Alcoholic or a Drug Addict - Rick has No Odinist Tattoos - He's Gainfully Employed - His Guns were Legally Purchased and Registered - He Likes Cats - He owns Knives - He's a Family Man - Has never been to Jail - Rick has a 401K - Rick Buys Stocks - He is a wonderful Father - Rick has No ties to Odinism or Asatru - Rick has no ties to Abby and Libby - Rick has no ties to Ron Logan - He has never done Rituals or Sacrifices - Rick is a God Fearing Man - Rick takes Showers Daily - He enjoys Playing Pool - Has no ties to Patrick Westfall - He has no ties to Elvis Fields - Rick has no ties to Johnny Messer -
The Delphi Murders - "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" Theory
On 2/13/2017, Abby and Libby were dropped off at the walking trail near the Monon High Bridge at about 130pm. They were supposed to get picked up by family around 3pm, however, the girls never showed up and were now missing. On 2/14/2017, at around 12pm, after the 22 unaccounted hours that the girls were missing, the bodies were discovered by a searcher named Pat Brown. Pat Brown was parked at the cemetery and asked Ron Logan personally if he could go through his property to search for the girls near the trail by Deer Creek. Soon after, that's when he found the bodies. I don't believe Pat Brown had anything to do with the murders, and he was actually traumatized after what he saw that day. (side note: Pat Brown and Ron Logan have been good friends and neighbors for decades, and were actually roommates at one time.) Not one time did Ron Logan help search for the girls. The evening before, when the search was still going on, Ron Logan said he was fooling with his tropical fish for 8 hours, if that makes any sense. When the girls were found the following day, they had been brutally murdered and possibly sexually assaulted, being that one of the girls was left naked and the other one was redressed. They were moved and staged, presumably being that the killers wanted them to be noticed and found. The murders seemed as if it was meant to send a message. A pedophile acting out on his sick impulses, or even an opportunist doesn't seem likely, being that there was no attempt to hide the bodies after what had been done.
After what was discovered and what happened to those innocent girls, the killers automatically became public enemy #1 for anybody and everybody, especially law enforcement. Girls were found on Ron Logan's property, so imagine some overzealous, gung-ho law enforcement officers that already knew who they thought was involved. Alibi or not, nothing was going to stop this first group of officers from finding out the truth. In Ron Logan's basement/cellar/garage, a treasure trove of evidence was found, including blood, guns, forged knives, DNA and some of the girl's missing clothing. A law enforcement officer as well as a good reliable friend of mine stated that on the evening of 2/14/2017, Ron Logan's entire property was being searched by law enforcement, which makes the most sense. Common sense will tell you that if the bodies were already found on Ron Logan's property, it shouldn't have to take a month and 2 days to secure a search warrant at Ron Logan's home on March 16, 2017.
Why leave the victims in the same location that numerous searches were being done? Why not take the bodies to a nearby town instead? Because the location that the girls were being held captive is very close to where the crime scene was. It also looks as if the killers took their time moving and staging the crime scene without the fear of being seen. It's someone who knows that area like the back of their hand. Dead or alive, the victims were brought out of hiding and to the crime scene well after the 2:30am search, most likely between the tweaker hours of 4:30-5:30am.
The evidence recovered from Ron Logan's home was done illegally, completely violating his 4th Amendment Rights, and the officers already knew they fucked up right away and had to almost pretend they didn't find what they found. Although many knew exactly what blunders that happened on Ron Logan's property, Unified Command and even the FBI was never informed. All evidence pointing to the murderers has now become the tree as the base and foundation of the Doctrine, being that not only can that evidence never be used to convict anybody in a court of law, but anything connected to the tree are all tainted fruit.
"Fruit of the Poisonous Tree Doctrine" which is a rule in criminal law that makes evidence that was derived from an illegal search, arrest or interrogation inadmissible. It's also a doctrine that extends the exclusionary rule to make evidence inadmissible in court if it was derived from evidence that was illegally obtained. As the metaphor suggests, if the evidential "tree" is tainted, so is its "fruit." The rule typically bars even testimonial evidence resulting from excludable evidence, such as a confession.
If you have all noticed, the most common thing said by law enforcement since the murders occurred in 2017, is the importance of the integrity of the investigation. The reason it has been said so many times is because they already ruined the integrity of the investigation on day one, so this is their way to move forward with the case. The crime scene had nothing but "fruit" connected to the tree, including DNA, fingerprints, signatures, and much more, but was never even brought up until the memorandum 6 years later.
The FBI had no involvement in the illegal search, and was also never told about it. That is why their investigation went on. ISP and Carroll County Sheriff's were the only ones who knew what really happened, so they had to let the FBI just do their thing, hoping they would finish sooner than later and get the hell out of town, so the good ole boys can do things their own way. Becky and Mike Patty, being closely related to law enforcement and the prosecutor demanded answers on day one and they got it. Privy information not even Libby's mom was told. The Patty's also knew that the case can never be solved because it already was, but proper procedures weren't followed.
When Ron Logan was arrested on a probation search/ search warrant served by the FBI, guns were found in his home. The search warrant was for Murder according to the FBI. The actual crime scene in his house where the girls were being held at, had been cleaned up very well. Ron Logan is a felon in possession of a firearm, however, the gun is also "fruit" and also the reason why he was only charged for being a habitual drunk driver who shouldn't have been driving. The FBI knew he lied about his alibi, making a phone call to do so, well before the bodies were even discovered. The FBI stated the bridge guy was Ron Logan. The FBI stated the voice heard on Libby's phone was Ron Logan. Countless things on Ron Logan's search warrant pointed directly at him, but see, the FBI was still in the dark about the early mistakes.
Many tips were called in, specifically naming Ron Logan, Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall. The FBI questioned Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall early on, not the ISP or the Carroll County Sheriff's. So all the videos of the suspects and their interrogations were not deleted by the FBI, it was destroyed by ISP and CCSO, by design, because they were all "fruit." They couldn't convict them with only circumstantial evidence.
Once the FBI departed, the mistakes made early on by ISP and the CCSO were supposed to just fade away in time. A case that was already solved, but will now be officially unsolved till the end of time. That's when trailer park Tony Liggett, Tobe Leazenby and the rest of the good ole boys went to work, on trying to solve the biggest case in Indiana history, that was supposed to just fade away in time.
Patsy #1`was Kegan Kline. His catfish account was the small connection they were gonna use. They soon found out that Kegan Kline was a bad idea. He's a habitual liar and a certified child predator and his mouth was way too big for him to be their patsy. Tip narrative found by Liggett was from Richard Allen, who said he was at the trail that day, and quickly became Patsy #2. A nice guy, soft spoken, no criminal record, and easy pickings for the good ole boys. By design, they made sure he was kept at Westville, where the Odinists are the highest ranking correctional officers there. He was supposed to die, because if Richard Allen dies, the murderer is dead and gone and the case is closed, and Carroll County Sheriff's are the hero's for catching him. However, the correctional officers were too busy parading Richard Allen around the prison with a dog collar on and a chain while the inmates cheered him on, instead of finishing the job.
Luckily for Richard Allen, the people Liggett asked to get the job done, failed miserably, because in came Ricks true saviors, Attorney's Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi. They let it be known that the world is now watching how Rick is being treated. He has been slowly recovering ever since, even though, considering, he is still being held in Wabash Correctional Facility. He barely survived and thwarted all of the CCSO efforts on knowingly railroading an innocent man who had never been arrested before.
Everything at the crime scene is all fruit. That's the only reason that prosecutor McLeland was mad about the leaks. It had nothing to do with the families. They were mad that all of the secrets are now coming to light. They did so well for over 6 years to keep them hidden. How were the girls murdered? What weapon was used? What time did the girls die? Whenever law enforcement or the prosecutor says "That involves the integrity of the investigation" it actually means, it involves the "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree."
On 2/13/2017, from 4pm into late in the evening, the Monon High Bridge and all surrounding areas were searched multiple times, including grid searches along the Deer Creek and the trails and in the woods, yet the girls were never found. Although law enforcement wants us all to believe that the girls were murdered on the afternoon of 2/13/2017, that is also a diversion from the truth. Even though Brad Holder and Ron Logan tried to get alibi's for 3-5pm on 2/13/2017, it does not account for the 22 unaccounted hours that the girls were missing. They were being held, against their will, inside of Ron Logan's basement/cellar/garage.
Saying anything to do about the crime and the crime scene could jeopardize the entire investigation, according to law enforcement, but look at this guy on the bridge. Look how he walks. Listen to his voice. Look at the 2 sketches. Too much emphasis on the bridge and the walking trail & who was there & who people think they saw. As law enforcement and homicide detectives, you don't start your investigation on a possible suspect who was seen on the walking trail. You start at the crime scene, using the wealth of information that has been collected. The killers left behind DNA, fingerprints & tons of clues, at the crime scene, not on the walking trail or on the bridge. It was a complete diversion to keep avoiding questions that were linked to the "fruit."
Motive: We now know that some, or all of the signatures left behind by the killers are actually runes and points these murders towards a religious, ritualistic, sacrificial killing. And after 6 years, without that crucial information, the murders would still have no clear motive. Now that we know it was the Vinlanders that practice Odinism, let's see what we have found about this religious cult so far. Drinking blood is often done during sacrifices. Undressing, dressing and redressing the victims is also part of their rituals. Sticks placed in certain configurations have different meanings. Rituals for this cult often take place in the woods in the evening time. This cult is extremely racist. They use black magic, witchcraft and norse paganism. They have been known to sacrifice animals and humans.
EVERYTHING THAT IS NOW POISONED: Cause of Death, Type of Murder Weapon Used, Time of Death, Date of Death, Coroner's Report, Autopsies, DNA, Fingerprints, Multiple Signatures, Forged Knives, Guns, Foot Prints, Unidentified Hair, Unidentified Fibers, any Tire Tracks or Impressions found and collected, Victims Clothing, all of the Crimes committed, the entire Crime Scene, the Bodies of Abby & Libby, the "F" Tree, Any and all Interviews, Arrests, Confessions, Notes, Tips, Alibi's and Interrogations involving Ron Logan, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall & Elvis Fields, and the entire 40 acres on Ron Logan's property.
EVERYTHING THAT WASN'T POISONED: Has been used to try to convict Richard Allen. The unspent bullet that was not found by law enforcement, but by a woman weeks later with a metal detector. The Bridge Guy and the video, being that the FBI already made it public. The 2 sketches. A tip narrative supposedly left with a Conservation Officer on 2/14/2017. And coerced confessions of Richard Allen. Nothing on the list before this one can be used against Richard Allen.
Now, if I had to choose between the search warrant written by untrained homicide detective and elected Sheriff Tony Liggett and the search warrant written by FBI homicide detectives that have been trained in Quantico, I would obviously choose the latter. Ron Logan's search warrant was professional and had over 30 things pointing directly to him, while Richard Allen's search warrant was vague, speculative and altered, with possibly 2 things that might point to Richard Allen.
Meanwhile, Richard Allen, an innocent man, is still sitting in a maximum security prison as he awaits his trial, since October of 2022 with no bail. Someone who is a father and happily married for over 30 years, working hard to always provide for his family. A man who has no criminal record and no ties to Abby and Libby, or Odinism. The Indiana good ole boys are proudly railroading Richard Allen for the simple fact that he happened to volunteer the information that he was on the walking trail that day, on February 13, 2017, nothing more, nothing less.
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Capital crimes[edit]
The following constitutes first-degree murder with aggravating circumstances, which is the only capital crime in Indiana.[1]
- The murder was especially heinous, atrocious, cruel or depraved (or involved torture)
- Indiana Code - § 35-50-2-9
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1/30/2024
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — The special judge in the Delphi double murders case handed down several rulings Monday.
Judge Francis Gull denied Richard Allen’s Motion for a Franks Hearing, denied Allen’s Motion to Suppress in Limine regarding ballistics, dismissed Allen’s Motion to Suppress the search of his home, took under advisement Allen’s Motion to Transfer and decided to set a hearing for the State’s Motion to Amend Information.
-Anybody who says Judge Gull isn't Biased, are clearly not paying attention to this case. The Supreme Court allowed Allen's original attorney's to be back on the case, and Judge Gull is mad. Judge Gull and Nick McLeland are both Runaway Trains headed nowhere fast. Corruption still hasn't been exposed. This case is the definition of Corruption. FREE RICHARD ALLEN!
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- The victims were murdered using knives.- Fingerprints were recovered from the crime scene.- At least 1 DNA profile was recovered from the crime scene.
- The victims had been moved & staged, presumably, post mortem.- Numerous, noticeable signatures were left behind by the killers.- All of the signatures resemble those of said ritualistic cult.- Some articles of clothing had been removed & put back on the victims.- Victim 1 was left undressed.- Victim 1 was almost decapitated.- The murders seemed directed towards Victim 1- Most likely than not, both victims were sexually assaulted.- There were random sticks intentionally placed on both of the victims as signatures.- Another signature of the killers was left behind on a tree with the blood of Victim 1. Looked similar to the letter "F"- The victims bodies were not found hidden, or in shallow graves, quite the opposite. It was staged enough to say that the killers definitely wanted the bodies noticed & found.- The lack of Victim 1's blood at the crime scene might point to her being bled out at an unknown location.- Time of death: Unknown
- Unidentified hair was recovered from the crime scene.
- Unknown fibers were recovered from the crime scene.
- Were any shoe or boot prints recovered from the crime scene or anywhere near by?- Were any tire tracks left behind anywhere near the crime scene?- Were any foreign objects or cigarette butts or pieces of wood with letters on them recovered anywhere in or near the crime scene?
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IT WAS A RITUAL AFTER ALL
https://justiceforjonbenetramsey.blogspot.com/2023/09/delphi-murders-libby-abby.html
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13 comments:
Well I agree with you wholeheartly, but I have one or two more things to add to it that I think you missed.For one I'll start with the odd things Becky Patty did in the six years of the case either seen and heard in interviews and once heard by others at the trails . Your right that Becky knew from the beginning who had the girls , maybe not the individual/individuals but the group . Why, because when Mike first arrived at the trails that day Feb.13,2017 at 5:00 pm Becky was over heard saying to him ,"They have our girl/girls." That to me shows knowledge of her knowing there was a threat. Which I believe were all members and friends in the Kokomo Drug Dealers Crew/Sons of Odin/Odinist/Vinlanders/etc.. Hate Groups and their reasons for the murders were the retribution for Derrick German snitching on their main members to LE causing them to lose alot of money !If you haven't noticed the big fat elephant in the room that's been missing since 2017 is Derrick German .Where has his ass been all these years and why has he not been at none of the press conferences not a one. Because he's in hiding supposedly in the family basement ? Maybe , maybe not.But why has the one family member who was not only first to miss them and Libby's father not say one word to help find her in all this time. Also why did Derrick or Tara not ask Cheyenne and Cheryl if they had seen the girls as they walked past them leaving? Why did Derrick go down the 505 trail instead of to the Freedom Bridge entrance ? Was it because he knew well the hidden spot under the bridge that was used by the drug dealers and users in Carroll Co. ? He should he was busted there . Why also would Becky think it was a good spot for the girls , Kelsie and Libby to hang out at rather than all the other trails that are connected to parks and recreational areas knowing Derrick and his buddies a gals partner there ? Was the drug use and dealing so ingrained in their family members and friends lives that it was the norm ? Was Becky protecting Derrick by feeding us a false narrative and is that she had such a hard time remembering it was because it was . Is that was she sent someone secret messages during her interview in Libby's bedroom like showing the book "I Promise Not To Tell " book .Mike Patty throwing White Supremist signs during their interview in their kitchen. And what was all that Masonic signing throwing during interviews and press conferences between him and , Holeman , FBI agent Daviss even Superintendent Doug Carter at the 2019 presser.Slap your head one more time Doug . Holeman signed so many times he must have been doing some form of majek to make us believe the shit that Mike was laying down possibly ? Now add this to what you already wrote and it will be perfect.
The lawyers were removed for a legitimate reason: leaking evidence from a murder trial.
.5 miles from the bridge. If that is where the bodies were found seems very risky. Yet on the 13th that spot had been cleared till the next day at noon. I believe that the girls couldnt be dead when they were searching the woods on the 13th.22 hours later there bodies were found posed. Libby's phone pinged the tower at 1pm on the 13th. What about the time stamp on the video? If this is the case why would it not have pinged again on that same tower. We know that Ron Logan's phone pinged the tower 20 meters from where the bodies were posed. Where were they held between time take to time posed
The police chief called off the search that night of the 13th. Why? Could he actually be involved? Someone posed the bodies after the search was called off.
If you look at Ron Logan he had the ability to hide the girls for the time in question. In the bridge video the ball cap looks camouflaged. Also the step which was taken on the video looks like a slip or a drunken step. How long was the video on the bridge? At the end of Crime Nation they said Ron died due to covid. He was the only one able to hide the girls during that 22 hrs. Also he would of known when they called off the search. Thus able to move the girls and then killed them.
As for Keigan he is a pedophile. If he was involved there would of been pictures on his phone or computer yet nothing was ever found.
Now third suspect Richard Allen he was there. He stated that whwn police took his first statement. He is also not tall enough in the video to be tje bridge guy.
Now let's look at Sheriff Tobe Leazendy. Take off his uniform put him in street clothes he could also look like the suspect.
I don't believe the girls went willingly, that they could of run but something was stopping them,thus the gun. Also the video has it been scrutinized? Or taken apart. The voice on the video was too muffled by the wind.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/bear-with-me/
I wrote a statement about how my ex husband was in a cult and how he was the man on the tracks. How this cult hurts people. How he works on cell towers ND owns a cell tower simulator. ISP put me in jail. Said It was harassment. I wrote this in Sept of 22. A yr before his defense team said anything. My ex worked in delphi all the time. This is covered up and I fear for my life. They make sure no one listens to you
I broadly agree with your theory of the case and shared your blog externally. I was horrified to find a new post, circa Nov 4/5, with graphic uncensored crime scene photos of the girls. This led to me being banned from the online forums where I shared your link. Please consider removing those images. Firstly, it violates their dignity and is VERY disturbing. Secondly, it inhibits others from sharing your content. Thanks -
This was a fantastic and very well written article. I commend you on your detective work. Though I will say I think Richard Allen and Kathy are both odinists and involved too. That being said, I think Richard thought he was being initiated in but ended up being the fall guy. I think Kathy knows too.
How come DP has been forever scrubbed as a suspect? His name was all over and then suddenly he's never ever mentioned again. Why is that?
Richard did it. He was there, he was wearing the same thing as BG. Why are you ignoring this?
Also, his confessions were not extracted, he offered them over 60+ times. He was also not tortured, and not in solitary. He was on suicidewatch in pc. He had more offerings than an actual prisoner in solitary (tablet, calls, canteen etc). Lots of prisoners are in solitary and no one makes a peep. Now all of a sudden, it's the worst thing in the world. If it was so bad, we would be seeing a phenomenon of impromptu prisoner confessions.
Also the FBI did not confirm Ron Logan was BG. He was once a person of interest, and cleared. The others were also cleared. There was no spit found on Abby, so the Elvis point is moot. What we know for certain 8s RA was there, and wearing the same thing as BG. RA also happens to look like BG. He claims now he doesn't remember what he was wearing or where he parked. If I was ever at the scene of a brutal crime where two children were mirdered (even if I was there just before), I would never forget what I was wearing, what I did there etc.
Also, I find it odd he only mentioned once to the officer he was there. After that, it seemed he never mentioned it to anyone else. It's like he never spoke of it again. You can be sure I would mention to people that I was there, and what I saw or did not see. He said nothing to anyone after coming forward. It's almost like once he saw there was video (which came out AFTER he spoke to the officer), he kept his mouth shut. Not a peep to the coworkers, family, or even her family when they were at CVS.
How come all these conspiracy crackpots are conveniently excusing his weird behaviors because it doesn't fit their narrative? I hope he accepts his fate and finally confesses at his sentencing. Let the girls rest iand their families have peace.
He should never have been in prison. He should have been in county jail where PRESUMED innocent people are held until the trial concluded.
The defrnce did not leer it
Maybe some people should look at the evidence before they make their statment..richard allen is not guilty
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